I recently read and responded to this post in the Google Maps for Business Group:
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TOPIC: Fix our phone number – repetitive problem.
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 11:26Â am
From: rihard2000Sorry to butt into this discussion, but I am having the same problem with my updated listing.
We recently moved our offices and switched our phone number. After updating the information in our Google Local Business center account, the new phone number isn’t showing on Google Maps or Local 10 pack (the new address is showing though). It has been about 1 week since we first updated our information.
Local 10 URL for North Coast Events –
Google Maps URL for North Coast Events -Please advise. Thank-you.
Dear rihard2000,
It generally takes 8 weeks or so for all of the information to filter through Google’s system so I wouldn’t worry until October sometime. It is unfortunate but it is the reality of the Google Local Business Center. It takes time for all of the pieces and parts of the database to realign themselves after a change like this. If after 8 weeks the discrepancy has not cleared up you should return to the group and plead with one of the Google Maps Guides to look into it. I would note, however that this is a small part of your concern.
I would strongly suggest that you scour the internet for your old address and phone number and start the Internet Change of Address Niggle Trauma (ICANT). Your old address/phone is embedded in the ether in a way that makes permanently changing it a task for the Gods and not mere mortals.
First go to the upstream primary data suppliers (InfoUSA, Axcion, Localeze & iBegin) and get it changed there. These companies are the primary data source for the many internet yellow pages (IYP), on line directories, MSN, Google & Yahoo. These primary data suppliers are used by Google and the other directories to verify that you are who you say you are and that you are located where you say you are located.
Next, change your record at Yahoo, the Superpages, InsiderPages & MerchantCircle manually as Google relies heavily on these directories for verification, categorization and ranking of your Google listing.
I would then go into your Maps listing and see what other directories and review sites that Google is referencing and make changes at those industry specific directories as well. If your address is different in the Google Local Business Center than at these supporting directories then Google might show your business as having less web pages (citations) pointing to your business and possibly less reviews singing your praises. This will definitely affect your ranking at Google and could lead to your falling off of the Local 10 Pack..
I am sure that you have done the traditional things in regards to your change of address such as notify the post office and your phone company. But you also need to be sure to notify the many phone books that service your area as well as the local government authorities that control your business record of the needed changes. Some of the upstream primary data suppliers (like InfoUSA) rely on these records more heavily than a change of address order provided to them on their site. They may not feed correct information to Google and the others until they have “on the ground” verification.
It is important that Google and all of the IYPs get a consistent view of your business. The days of only telling the postman and the phone company of your new address are over. You need to do this change of address two step or your old address will haunt you for years to come and the loss of business in your case could be significant.
It is unfortunate that in the Internet Age that this problem has made the life of the small businessperson much more complicated than it used to be. There is not yet a single solution in site although a few companies seem to be trying.
Mike


How good of you to lay this all out of for the business owner, Mike. This is an extremely valuable tutorial and offers an actionable plan that at least gives guidance for how the business owner should proceed when they change locations. Excellent!
Miriam
Comment by Miriam (22 comments) — August 14, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Hi Miriam
Thanks….but it just strikes me that the stakes for a florist are so high and the complexities are so great that SMB’s should not have to confront this mess. They have better things to do with their time.
Mike
Comment by Mike Blumenthal (1962 comments) — August 14, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
Maybe you can put these under ‘traditional things’ , but didn’t read it elsewhere in the article, but don’t forget to update your OWN website with your address information.
And if you run multiple language/.TLD sites, change them on all of them!
Comment by martijn (77 comments) — August 14, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
Martijn
Good point. Certainly needs to be on the list. If it is ok I think I will add it.
Mike
Comment by Mike Blumenthal (1962 comments) — August 14, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
Mike,
I do have one addition to your excellent guide:
In order to properly change your address, you need to sacrifice a goat weighing at least 75 pounds, while facing Cupertino and reciting the HTTP specifications backwards.
Cheers!
Erek
Comment by Erek Dyskant (7 comments) — August 15, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Hi
I hate to be the Joannie come late but well I was on vacation last week.
With regards to this, I’ve found that Google, when doing an edit, actually states that changes should be reflected within 24 hrs. When editing information for US clients I find that happens far more quickly than when trying to do an edit for a Canadian business in Google. That takes in excess of 4 weeks.
Also has anyone noticed that when doing edits you lose your ‘ Additional Information’ fields and data?
Thanks…
Joan
Comment by Joan van Hilten (102 comments) — August 27, 2008 @ 2:23 pm
Hi Joan
We’ve missed you….not sure anybody is lurking in these corners but me…this stuff goes stale soooo quickly.
Yes in the US I generally see changes in Maps immediately (although not always) but changes to the Local 10 Pack can be long and arduous affairs. Did you see the guest article on the database architecture? That would explain the bulk of the delay in Google themselves.
But in the case of the Plus box Google seems to not ever look at the LBC for information or seems to give precedence to the preponderance of information found elsewhere on the web.
I have not noticed the problem with “Additional Information” fields but will keep an eye out.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
How do I find the guest article on the database structure?
Cheers. Andrew.
Comment by Andrew (21 comments) — March 30, 2010 @ 1:24 pm
@Andrew
A co-worker wrote it.
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