Here is the presentation I presented at SMX Local Mobile:
If you have questions or suggestions to this model of ranking factors let me know. I hopefully will be writing up more thorough report on our research shortly.
Mike Blumenthal
Here is the presentation I presented at SMX Local Mobile:
If you have questions or suggestions to this model of ranking factors let me know. I hopefully will be writing up more thorough report on our research shortly.
Mike Blumenthal
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All I can say is; excellent research Mike! And luckily the collaborators were kind enough to provide you with the necessary datasets to do some thorough investigation! Hooray for the community.
Comment by martijn (77 comments) — August 4, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
Yes, the collaborators made the data collection possible and without them this would have been dead in the water.
Mike
Comment by Mike Blumenthal (688 comments) — August 4, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Yay!
I’m so glad you posted this, Mike. I’ve been waiting.
This was such fun to work on. I want more.
I think new areas we could potentially explore would include UGC, trust quality of citation sources (web pages), age of listings (though I’m not sure how we would discover that), etc.
It was so worth it to do this work. Thanks for putting this up for all to see.
Miriam
Comment by Miriam (21 comments) — August 4, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
As I read this and my brain started working on simple conclusions as brains do in the face of such things. What I kept thinking is that the best long term strategy for a small business in Maps would be to focus on traditional SEO.
I’m thinking as time goes by one would expect categories to move to the right in terms of competitiveness. So, one might as well focus to the right of where the category is now for long term results.
Thoughts on this?
Comment by Tim Coleman (4 comments) — August 4, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Hi Tim,
I see what you mean. In fact, I’d say that with what we’re seeing with citations…it may not even really be traditional SEO that’s the strongest signal, but rather, a form of Search Marketing engaged in specifically to get the right citations from the right places (rather like link acquisition, but with a wider latitude of acceptable acquisitions owing to the fact that they can be mentions rather than strict links).
What do you think about that?
Miriam
Comment by Miriam (21 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 4:38 am
Thanks for publishing that, Mike. I agree with Miriam. We should do some more data sets. I’d continue to use the same format for a bit, just to verify the data.
While we had over 400 different business records we only looked at 4 data sets. Another set or two might skew the information in each category; (few signals -> many data signals.). We might want to look at data wherein the information is spread around over a larger geography including a city with a lot of square mileage and/or a small state.
The more data -> the better the research.
Wonderful presentation.
Dave
Comment by Dave Oremland (11 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
Curses! Mike, that pingback is a scraper site. They scraped by Search Engine Guide article. Just took the whole thing. Grrrr!
Miriam
Comment by Miriam (21 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 4:42 pm
Sorry - I meant to say, they scraped ‘my’ Search Engine Guide article.
Miriam
Comment by Miriam (21 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
@Miriam
I pulled the link back…no sense in referring them
Mike
Comment by Mike Blumenthal (688 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Thanks, Mike. There are a couple of scraper blogs that seem to just hog any bit of content that I write on SEG. Annoying, but all too common. I appreciate you removing that pingback.
Miriam
Comment by Miriam (21 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
@Mike.
Traditional SEO with a wider latitude seems like a perfect way of saying it.
Comment by Tim Coleman (4 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
@tim
Yes that is a good way to look at it.
There are some differences that correlate well like business title/category and title tag etc but are unique to local…In Sept 2006 I wrote Does Business Name = Title Tag?.
Then there are the wider latitude things like what does a local link look like. It needs to include pure geo citations as well as solid link phrase link backs type links. If I were to define the ideal web reference it would be a solid link phrase + a complete geo reference all in one. But I would take citations and linkbacks just the same.
Then there is the straight geo web stuff that isn’t really clear yet. Do KML, KML widgets and GeoRSS files add rank? Or do they just confirm location and legitimacy?
While I agree with you that the geo web will tend towards more complete web based info and lots of main stream searches will be defined by that completeness on the right side of the graph…there is still the long tail local searches where more purely local factors will come into play (like on the left side). The strategy for approaching those will be unique to local at least for now.
Mike
Comment by Mike Blumenthal (688 comments) — August 5, 2008 @ 7:57 pm
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Fascinating research here Mike et al. Would it be possible to get details on the methodology, so as to better understand what the numbers mean (e.g. 80% importance of the centroid, 16% variability… that slide in particular didn’t mean anything for a non-attendee
).
Comment by Gab Goldenberg (6 comments) — August 21, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
We measured 25 data points (some with a scraping program and some by hand) on each of 100 businesses in 4 search categories.
We then ran a stepwise multiple regression on the results to attempt to create a model that would predict ranking by assessing the correlation to ranking of each factor. For each of the four sets we established which variables had the strongest correlation and which in combination created the best predictors of ranking… thus while we can plot correlation we can’t really measure causality. So while I wouldn’t put too much store in the absolute numbers there is a fair bit of confidence in their relative relations.
The issue of the centroid was also addressed by Carter Maslan in the interveiw with Erek Enge so we are confident that there is causality in this case.
I may, if I have time, write up more complete coverage of the study.
Mike
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