Understanding Google My Business & Local Search
Moz Updates Local Query Set – Revised Data Show 23.4% Drop Post Pigeon Update
MozCast has now updated their query set to better reflect what searchers are seeing. Even though their methodology was different than that of Whitespark, the new results showing a decline in 7-packs due to the Google Local algo update are much the same: a 23.4% drop.
It is interesting to note that one of their observations which correlates to what I am seeing, is a number of “these queries now have authoritative one-boxes instead of packs”. That is consistent with an Google’s statement to be using more web signals and in this case demonstrating a predilection for brands and one boxes ala Hummingbird. This brand preference might also lead to additional 3 packs often seen on brand queries.
Here is the communication from Cyrus regarding the MozCast update:
- jet ski
- condos
- house rentals
- money gram (misspelled – interestingly, “moneygram” returns a pack)
- homebrew
- wheels
- subway store locator
- resorts
- apartment rentals
- custom cars
- gardening
- jeeps (“jeep dealership” does get a pack)
- wedding makeup
- bed and breakfast
- train tickets
Clearly the Local algo update (note to Matt McGee: can’t we do better than naming it after a pigeon?) has had an impact and a large one.
The more important questions though revolve around the real world impact on local businesses. Is there a decline in call? Is there a decline in driving directions? Are their fewer web visits? Over the next few weeks as we learn more about these real world impacts we can hopefully better understand how to advise clients.
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I’m still showing a 7-pack for Bed and Breakfast. At least in Dallas anyway.
I am not seeing a loss of the 7 packs on any of my main customer queries for bed and breakfasts. I am noticing that directories are showing up in the packs, which they had not previously. I did see one instance of a one block for the queries “Hudson Valley bed and breakfast” and “Cape Cod Bed and Breakfast”which are regional terms. I have several customers in Cape Cod and they are feeling frustrated with the drop for that phrase. I also am seeing relatively new inns with new sites popping up high in the 7-pack, with no Google reviews, although they do all seem to have pretty good ranking in Tripadvisor and are close to what appears to be “city central”.
It looks to be only affecting people searching from certain locations currently (data centre specific I would think with US IPs).
For example if you search for: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=gardening+new+york
Using an Australian IP address (hidemyass VPN to do this) – 7 pack.
Using a US IP address – 3 pack.
AU results:
Urban Garden Center
http://www.urbangardennyc.com
4.0
7 Google reviews · Google+ page
1640 Park Ave
New York, NY, United States
(646) 872-3991
Rooftop Gardener – Bonus Gardens
http://www.bonusgardens.com
3 Google reviews · Google+ page
182 Second Ave
New York, NY, United States
(917) 306-6776
Plant Shed New York Flowers
http://www.plantshed.com
4.3
8 Google reviews · Google+ page
209 W 96th St
New York, NY, United States
(212) 662-4400
Plantworks Inc
plantworksnyc.com
2 Google reviews · Google+ page
28 E 4th St
New York, NY, United States
(212) 674-8111
Chelsea Garden Center
chelseagardencenter.com
4 Google reviews
580 11th Ave
New York, NY, United States
(212) 727-7100
Jamali Floral and Garden Supplies LLC
http://www.jamaligarden.com
4.0
5 Google reviews · Google+ page
149 W 28th St
New York, NY, United States
(212) 244-4025
The Home Depot
http://www.homedepot.com
3.5
101 Google reviews
40 West 23rd Street
New York, NY, United States
US Results:
New York Botanical Garden
http://www.nybg.org
4.7
90 Google reviews · Google+ page
2900 Southern Blvd
Bronx, NY
(718) 817-8700
Brooklyn Botanic Garden
bbg.org
4.6
142 Google reviews · Google+ page
990 Washington Ave
Brooklyn, NY
(718) 623-7200
Howell Family Garden
http://www.nybg.org
Google+ page
Mike said: ” can’t we do better than naming it after a pigeon?”
Today a previous consulting client that had mysteriously dropped out of the pack a couple months ago, emailed me to say that since the update Thursday, she’s back in the pack.
She wrote:
“Which is funny that a pigeon helped me, because my dad raised pigeons when I was growing up and I HATED those stinky birds!! Today, I kinda like Pigeons (at least the algorithm kind)!”
Thanks for the info Mike!
I saw a post from Darren Shaw on Whitespark site and there were few more search terms that were not returning local packs anymore.
http://www.whitespark.ca/blog/post/37-23-percent-drop-in-local-packs
Here are the terms from this post:
mold removal
dui lawyer
dui lawyers
dui attorney
dui attorneys
real estate
realtors
emergency plumber
commercial * (painting, construction, remodeling, etc)
Here’s what I’m seeing from anonymous Chrome with static IP from Bulgaria for this query: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=gardening+new+york
Nice 7 Pack.
Screenshot here – https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-aiRoCpQgyoMFNhb1F0Y2l3TWM/edit?usp=drivesdk
Great coverage, as always, Mike!
Can we starting taking up what your post leaves off? So far, the only solid advice I can think of for SMBs is that they’d better have strong citations on the directories Google is now pulling up higher for their core keyword phrases. This advice seems rather simplistic to me. Clearly, SMBs are going to be hoping to overcome any negative effects on calls/traffic/etc. from this, and perhaps it’s too soon to draw any good conclusions, but I’d certainly be interested in hearing what others think about creating a viable strategy for a single local business in the new environment!
@Miriam
What you lose one way you might make up another. I am not going to be making any proclamations until I 1)see analytics and 2)better understand what is happening.
Certainly barnacle marketing has always been a good idea and continues to be but my feeling is that there is more to the puzzle. I will keep on looking.
No discernible change I can make out in the UK folks – maybe US only so far?
Mike – any more insight on the effects this has had? There was a lot of junk out there (UK at least) so would be good to see some quality improvements in many categories.
Interesting times.
@Marcus
Google indicated it was US only so I think your observations are correct.
Its hard to judge quality improvements. A big change is the widespread differences in the mapping view port used to ascertain which businesses to show. I have seen it go both smaller and bigger but the main theme seems to be a more specific geo targeting that usually makes it smaller. This has meant in some (but not all) cases that locations in the burbs lost their pack listing.
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