Understanding Google My Business & Local Search
Guide to Using Call Tracking for Local Search
I wanted to circle back to the call tracking issues in local. In my previous post, I wrote a great deal about where it doesn’t work. I also have wanted to cover where and how it does work. It made sense to me to ask someone in the industry to put it together so I asked Mark Sullivan, Director of Analytics, CallRail to write a guest post on the topic. Let me know what you think.
Mark Sullivan has directed online marketing at various companies since 2006. Most recently he worked at Yodle on the team in charge of local SEO performance for multi-location & franchise businesses. He left Yodle in 2013 to start growth consulting firm Vasolo, where he learned the effectiveness of using call tracking data to better drive business growth for his clients. In 2014 he joined the CallRail team, where he is the Director of Analytics. Mark spends most of his time educating SMBs and marketing agencies on how to better analyze marketing metrics to extract meaningful insights. Feel free to reach out to him on Twitter @mpsulli.
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As our appetite for better business data increases, so do the tools we use to capture that data. Call tracking technology is no different. Adoption among local businesses across North America is increasing. Many local search products now come out of the box with some form of call tracking. Whether it’s a visibility package tailored for dentists or a one-size-fits-all SMB automation package, it’s becoming more common for marketers to quantify lead generation through inbound calls.
When it comes to using call tracking for local search, there are special considerations to keep in mind. Adopt a call tracking strategy that doesn’t account for NAP consistency and you’re setting yourself up for a lot of citation cleanup at best, and utter failure at worst. Many of us have heard the nightmare stories about some company that used call tracking and rankings completely tanked. Or possibly worse, we’ve heard the story of a business losing access to a call tracking number that was used to represent their business all over the web. It’s understandable to be wary of call tracking numbers and local search.
However, there is one foolproof way to get the benefits of call tracking without sabotaging your local visibility. This guide aims to show you how to get your call tracking cake and eat it, too.
So Why Care About Call Tracking for Local Search?
- Accountability – One of the toughest parts of what we do in local SEO is communicating clearly, concisely, and convincingly the answer to this question from our clients: “What have you done for me lately?” Often we’re left educating our clients on NAP consistency, the importance of unique content, citations, and the invaluable nature of reviews on IYP’s. Fortunately for us, our clients aren’t really interested in learning how to become local search marketers. What they want is more accountability from their local SEO investments in the form of lower funnel metrics that directly impact their bottom line.
With call tracking enabled we can get deeper into the customer funnel and become more accountable search marketers. As a business owner, if my $500 per month local SEO campaign shows me inbound call volume reports alongside the other metrics, I’m able to better account for the ROI of my investment. Add in call recordings that can be reviewed to determine the quality of phone leads coming in, and you’ve introduced a level of accountability that business owners are craving from their local SEO efforts.
- Better KPI’s – KPI’s are a fancy way to say “metrics that matter”. For many of us working in local SEO, the Key Performance Indicators we’ve focused on for years have been based on rankings and traffic. Relying solely on these metrics nowadays, with the advent of personalized search and the rising importance of IYP’s like Google+ Local & Yelp, means you’re likely missing conversions that your local SEO efforts should get credit for. After all, when someone does a search on Google for a cosmetic dentist and calls directly from the SERP without ever visiting any business website, that valuable phone call isn’t fully being accounted for in a rankings/traffic only performance report.
With a better KPI like call volume, we as local search marketers can get a better picture of how well our work is paying off. There’s some guidelines on how to best use this data to prove performance. Later in this guide, we’ll get more into how to slice up aggregate call data to best avoid counting existing customers.
- Advanced Features – Modern call tracking platforms include much more “under the hood” than just attribution (i.e. tying calls back to a campaign.) Most platforms come out of the box with advanced features like call recording, advanced call routing/handling, interactive voice response menus, and customizable dashboards. When we surveyed CallRail clients about how they get the most value out of call tracking, an overwhelming number of them talk about how call recordings have helped them identify training opportunities for people answering the phones. Others have pointed out that by implementing a 15 second greeting at the beginning of the call they were able to significantly reduce the amount of time employees spent on the phone answering repetitive questions.
As the Swiss army knife is versatile, so are modern call tracking platforms. Combined with built in integrations with Google Analytics, CRM platforms, and open API’s, the permutations of what you can do with your inbound phone calls are numerous.
The Main Concern: NAP Consistency
By far, the number 1 most cited concern with using call tracking in local search campaigns has been the risk it poses to NAP Consistency. I share this concern and fall on the more conservative side of the fence. After spending countless hours, resources, and money to clean up bad citations, create new ones, and optimize existing ones the LAST thing any local SEO marketer wants to do is introduce a contradictory data point into the mix.
Unfortunately, many call tracking proponents have largely dismissed this concern, stating that the easy solution to this is using JavaScript code to swap out phone numbers. For those of you who aren’t aware, this technique requires a pool of tracking numbers that are dynamically inserted on a website and tied to a visitor’s website session. This is a brilliant technique that has a perfect use case: paid advertising campaigns. It’s also great to use as an SEO tactic for businesses (like many ecommerce sites) that aren’t concerned with NAP consistency. While I have seen this technique (Dynamic Number Insertion) used in conjunction with local SEO campaigns, it is not one I’m willing to fully endorse quite yet. The margin for error when using DNI for local SEO is large. Also, until we have an explicit statement from major search engines that this technique is completely kosher for local businesses to track calls from organic visits, it’s better to go the foolproof route outlined below.
Other Concerns: Number Portability, Vanity Numbers, Dirty Numbers & Taking Credit Where Credit Isn’t Due
NAP Consistency isn’t the only concern that’s been brought up by detractors. Another concern many people have relates to using a phone number that businesses don’t “own”. If a business incorporates a call tracking number into their local SEO campaign, then who owns that number? This is a valid concern. Some marketing companies that do local SEO campaigns on behalf of businesses have the awful policy of “owning” the call tracking number they use for that business, refusing to give it up if the business wants to part ways with that marketing company. We’ll get into this concern below in the guide as well.
Vanity numbers were considerably more valuable when people actually remembered phone numbers. While that’s not the case for most people nowadays, it’s still a concern for businesses that have been using the same phone number for many years. Luckily for businesses with this concern, there’s a way to keep that vanity phone number and still get all the benefits of call tracking described above.
Another issue some have had with call tracking numbers is what getting what I call “dirty” numbers. A dirty number is one that is associated, whether published online or in someone’s phone book, with another entity or person. Imagine getting a shiny new call tracking number to use for your local search campaign only to find out it was previously used by a drug dealer (Yes, I’ve heard of this happening before.) Regardless of the previous use of that number, having a significant amount of inbound calls that are wrong numbers can affect your reporting and waste your time. While this is a larger concern if you’re using free phone number providers, it can happen with any call tracking provider. There are a few ways to manage this concern effectively and neutralize its impact on any business using call tracking.
Lastly, there are some marketers out there who are eager to take credit for campaign performance where credit is not due. With call tracking set up to track local SEO success, many marketers aim to take credit for every single call that comes in through the call tracking optimized line, instead of taking into account that many existing customers of that business will be finding the business in the same way as new customers will—by searching. If an existing customer calls in through the call tracking number, how much credit should any local SEO effort get for that call? Not very much, in my humble opinion, and by using this guide you’ll mostly avoid that situation.
The Foolproof Way to Use Call Tracking for Local Search
Step 1. Get a call tracking enabled phone number.
- Option A. Port your existing business phone number over to a call tracking provider. This option is great for established businesses that have done a lot of work already on NAP consistency across the web. It’s also a great option if you have a vanity phone number or simply do not want to go through the hassle of updating your citations across the web with a new phone number, then this is the option for you. Porting a number over to a call tracking provider can take up to 6 weeks since many of the big telecoms you’ll be porting away from operate a bit slower than their newer, call-tracking enabled counterparts. Also note, that when you port over your number you will also need to provision a new line at your business that will receive the calls.
- Option B. Choose a phone number with a local area code from a call tracking provider. This is a fantastic option for new businesses, or for businesses that already have messy NAP data across the web. Using this option you will need to do a full citation update campaign. It’s important to choose a phone number with a local area code in the area where the business is located. There’s some indication that this is an important geographic data point used as a signal by search engines.
To avoid the “dirty number” scenario described above, be proactive. Do a search for this number on Google to make sure it’s not tied to another entity on any business citation or publicly available dataset. If you find the number listed as belonging to any entity then get another one and repeat the search. For the extra conservative among us, I recommend having this number enabled for 2 weeks before using it to see if you get wrong number calls. Many call tracking providers have an internal process to keep their numbers clean, but it’s best to double check. Keep in mind that the longer you have any number, the fewer problems you’ll have with wrong numbers.
**Important Note for Businesses working with Marketing Companies – Make sure you either “own” the call tracking number you’re going to use, or have a specific clause in your agreement with the company that you can take ownership of the number upon termination of your agreement. This is critical to avoid a scenario where you have business information all over the web pointing to a phone number that doesn’t ring at your business. If the company will not agree to transfer ownership of the phone number, then find another company to do your local SEO.
Step 2. Forward all calls from your call tracking number to your business line.
- The receiving line is often called the “destination number” in call tracking. This means that any time someone calls the tracking number, the call will be passed to the destination number, which should be your business line.
- Since you’re now using a phone number with a lot of new features, there are many different configurations to consider. Start with the basics: add your destination number and enable call recording**.
**Call recording is legal in every state of the U.S. with some state-specific regulations. To comply with all of these different state recording laws, there’s only one thing you have to do: notify the caller that the call is being recorded. Many call tracking platforms have a pre-recorded message you can enable that plays at the beginning of the call saying exactly this. If you’re curious about state by state call recording laws and speak legalese, go here: http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations. By the way, I’m not a lawyer and you shouldn’t take any of my words as legal advice.
Step 3. Use this phone number everywhere online, except paid campaigns.
- Anywhere your business information is listed online that can be indexed by a search engine should have this call tracking enabled phone number.
- Your website
- Online Directories: Google+ Local, Yelp, Bing, Yahoo, Facebook, IYP’s
- Citations: anywhere your business information is listed.
- Do not use this phone number for paid online campaigns. While it won’t affect your NAP consistency to use it with paid campaigns, you will be muddying the call data by including more than just your local SEO campaign. For paid online campaigns you should provision unique tracking numbers in order to measure the effectiveness separately from your organic campaign. Since these campaigns are not normally indexed by search engines, the numbers you use shouldn’t affect your NAP consistency.
- If you’re doing paid offline campaigns like radio ads, billboard ads, mailers, and newspapers, I recommend using a unique phone number for each. This will allow you to measure the effectiveness of each advertising medium as it relates to inbound phone calls.
- One important note about these supposedly “offline” campaigns: Some of the data you give them may end up online in some form. Business data in print directories, in particular, has a tendency to surface somewhere online because of how these directories license their data. This is called a “leak” and it’s actually possible for any offline campaign to leak data into the online world. Yellow Pages data ends up leaking into places all over the web, even if you’re just advertising in the printed book. Be aware that there is a trade-off if you decide to use different phone numbers in your offline paid campaigns. You may get more insight into what’s driving phone calls in exchange for more NAP consistency work on your part. If you don’t advertise in paid directories like Yellow Pages, then you have much less to worry about. If you do, in my experience the risk is best managed in 2 primary ways.
- 1st – Constant NAP Monitoring: This is my go-to strategy for dealing with this issue. Monitor your IYP’s and big data provider citations regularly for incorrect data and make the corrections. (You should be doing this regardless of whether you use call tracking.)
- 2nd – Use One Offline Number & Claim It: Another tactic is to use the same unique number for all of your offline campaigns that might leak data (mainly directories like YP and newspapers), and claim that phone number as a secondary line on your citations. That way you don’t end up with duplicate or false listings with different phone numbers. While this dilutes the attribution value of using call tracking, it can save you NAP cleanup work.
Step 4. Use the call data coming in to measure campaign performance.
- Focus on one metric, above all else, as you begin to analyze the call data: First Time Callers. Because you’ll be using the call tracking enabled number for your main organic line, this particular metric will give you a more accurate idea of how many new callers are finding your business online.
- Keep in mind that at the beginning of the campaign, most new calls coming in will be from First Time Callers. Until there is 3 to 6 months of call data, you won’t be able to use this metric. The longer you have been using call tracking numbers, however, the better your First Time Caller data becomes. If you’re using a company to track this data, make sure to give them any past call logs you have so that they can compare with their First Time Caller reports.
- In an ideal world you would have a good idea of how many calls your business receives per day, and how many new callers are dialing in. In this ideal world you would use this data as a baseline for any local SEO campaign’s performance. Luckily, the sooner you incorporate call tracking in the way outlined here, the sooner you’ll be able to get the true ROI of your local search strategy.
Step 5. Go beyond simple call tracking to get the maximum benefit.
- Call recordings are a rich source of information for your business. Companies are using these recordings to train staff, optimize answering scripts, and identify opportunities to save money on staff time. You would not believe how often I hear from call tracking customers the amounts of money they’ve “uncovered” from these recordings. Dive into them. Learn from your customers and treat the leads as the precious commodity that they are.
- Advanced call routing can empower your business with a level of customization that large enterprises have been using for years. From auto-scheduling your calls to follow different call flows at different times of day, to creating interactive voice response menus that give your company a professional impression on the first call, these features come out of the box now with most call tracking platforms. One of my favorite ways to add even more data to phone calls is to use an interactive voice response menu that will auto-tag the call based on what menu item the caller selects. For example, I can add a menu that says, “Press 1 if you’re an existing patient, Press 2 if you’re a new patient, and press 3 for all other inquiries.” Provided I had set it up, each call where a person presses 2 would be auto-tagged “New Patient”, thereby giving me more data to analyze my local SEO campaign’s performance.
To wrap it all up: Call Tracking can be a valuable tool in your local SEO tool belt, provided you understand the risks, how to manage those risks, and how to best analyze the call data. Whether you do all the marketing for your business or use an agency, the tactics above should provide you a way to get started with an exciting new technology that is causing many of us rethink how our phones should operate.
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Mike: I’ve used call tracking. Additionally I’ve monitored a number of paid call tracking campaigns including one from Yodle, and finally I’ve been on the phones a lot.
In every campaign I’ve monitored I’ve listened to every single call.
I’d like to speak to some issues that the call tracking “experts” don’t seem to address, or at least not in this article.
Most critically: Even as people use call tracking for various media, from an SEO or search perspective, or web perspective, unless you’ve specifically tied different phone lines and numbers to specific forms of marketing its EXTREMELY difficult to ascertain where the call is coming from.
The issue is you have to train your staff, and if its related to Search from the web its a somewhat “tricky issue” to find out exactly which search engine, which web referral source, or certainly which search terms generate the leads.
The key is with the staff. If there are 10-20 variations on search terms, referral sources, social media sources, different search engines etc. I’d be surprised if you ever ever get that data.
I used to get it. I did the optimization, I knew where the site was ranked for most search terms, in most engines, and how the terms ranked dependent on a callers location.
I answered the phones. When people called off of our search marketing, through some questions, without being specific or overbearing I often could narrow down specifically how and where people found us on the web.
It would have been impossible to train the staff to get that data. Too detailed, too elaborate, too many variables to replicate that.
Frankly I’d have a harder time replicating that today…though I could probably approximate it.
Call tracking will never give you that granularity…unless you can get your phone answering staff up to speed on many search variables, plus ensuring that they aren’t too pushy with questions on their end. You don’t want to offend the customer, or ask too many questions of that ilk. You are there to answer the questions of the caller. That is the first priority.
2. Possibly the most critical information I got off the various call tracking projects I monitored was how bad the businesses and their phone personnel were at answering the calls. In fact it was easily the most critical information.
The writer, Mark Sullivan, references that. I’d highlight it. Its a scary piece of information. Businesses lose umpteen dollars at this level. On a side note, I have recent information from a number of service businesses. Doctors, dentists, vets, etc…..all lose customers from weak front of the office staff work. Its astonishing, alarming and costly.
Think of the above. If you get anything from call monitoring it might be how weak your phone answering is.
If a phone number is directly tied to a specific advertising campaign…its a no brainer–> the calls that come to that # are tied to that campaign. That’s great. You can measure the results. worthwhile in that capacity.
I could reference other details….but there are benefits and there are technical issues wherein all the technology in the world won’t give you specific info you might want.
Hi Mark, thanks for putting this incredible guide together! I think more and more local SEO’s will be moving to call tracking. From a conversion optimization standpoint, it’s pretty much impossible to get a clear picture of your conversion rate without call tracking. I had no idea that you could port over an existing phone number to a call tracking service. I think this is huge because existing businesses with consistent NAP data don’t have to worry about editing existing citations. Thanks for the pro tips!
@Dave, fantastic input. I agree that the specific origin of a particular inbound call is difficult to ascertain (assuming you’re not using unique call tracking #’s) without some messy, how-did-you-find-us forensic work. My belief is that any KPI that brings more accountability into the performance reporting of a local marketer is a good thing, regardless of the level of precision it might have. For that reason I recommend focusing on First Time Callers, as this gets us closer to the measure of health of a local SEO campaign. After all, if a campaign is not producing a healthy stream of First Time Callers then it’s likely time to try something different.
Some of my colleagues in the call tracking industry are fond of a technique called Dynamic Number Insertion, which allows for unique numbers to be placed for each visitor on a website. This technique does allow for more precision in determining how a particular caller arrived at your phone number since it ties a single phone number to single “session” on your website. While this would give you the data you’re referring to, it’s a more risky tactic for local SEO and I can’t recommend it.
All that being said I would caution against letting Perfect being the enemy of Good when it comes to only one of the benefits of call tracking (attribution.) In your second point you bring up one of the most valuable aspects of call tracking: call recording. Over the years many clients have told me that this benefit alone more than paid for their investment in call tracking. Every time we put out the call to our customers requesting case studies about how CallRail might have helped them in some way, a large portion of the responses revolve around call recording. So much money is left on those phone calls, never to be uncovered, without call tracking set up.
Thanks for your input! Keep it coming. I’m happy to give my thoughts to a community of local SEO’ers. 🙂 I don’t get to interact with as many of you all as I used to!
@Chris, Thanks for the feedback. Porting numbers is a remarkably simple, if long and annoying, process to keep that NAP consistency in place. It’s a tactic that I wish more people knew about since I think many in local SEO avoid call tracking because they don’t know it’s possible. Let me know if you have any questions and keep me posted with any trouble or success you have with this method. 🙂
Having used call tracking in my local marketing agency for 5 years… I would argue it is a must to client retention.
A few tips…
to not take credit for “all” calls you can set up a greeting to the effect of:
If you are a new customer please press 1 of you are an existing customer please press 2. Then only count those calls that press 1.
Depending on your budget in advertising it is possible to show different numbers based on referral source ie yelp or directory etc.
To retain control of your main number and not port it but track all calls that come in it is also possible to simply forward your main number to the call tracking number which forwards to another number in your place of business.
But this article misses the main reason to have call tracking…
Find the main keywords that CONVERT via Adwords so you know what to target for seo.
Use different numbers to split test different versions of your site.
Cheers,
Matt
Matt all good points, some hinted at in the article.
But our main goal was to define a safe foundational set of practices that could provide a solid path to take advantage of the many things that can be done with call tracking.
@Mark – Thanks for this.
Agencies that want to win in the long-run must consistently communicate the value of their services. For us, that includes both making phones ring and sourcing those calls.
Unfortunately, as you mention, and as local SEOs know, call tracking number create a multitude of problems.
These issues tend to be downplayed by phone tracking providers (full disclosure: I’m a customer of both Call Rail and Ifbyphone).
Just to clarify from above, you are expressly recommending against using DNI on local business websites?
If so, I think Call Rail representatives need to be better equipped to bring this to the attention of clients (Ifbyphone too). Just my friendly .02.
We have been reluctant to roll-out DNI across our client base.
We have implemented it in limited instances in a variety of ways. While certainly not scientific, one approach seems to sufficiently mitigate issues (at least so far). It includes using toll-free DNI prominently on sites with real local NAP in footers, contact pages, etc.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this and any additional insight you can provide in terms of internal debates at Call Rail about how these risks are communicated to clients.
Thanks again.
Hi Mike,
Apologies if I commented on something covered in the post, it was late when I read it 🙂
Reviewing it this morning I think the key thing that compelled me to comment was a sense that the risk and reward was not properly represented.
Call tracking is a must. Marketers need to know how to implement it safely I am glad you had such an important post written.
NAP should always have the original number, the website should have dynamic call tracking per source. And schema mark up in the footer with NAP.
That has always been our policy.
Cheers,
Matt
@Matt
No apologies necessary. I agree with your points. DNI is complex and doing it in a way that Google finds acceptable is somewhat more complicated than this article could cover.
Gyi and Matt both made some great points. Based on their comments, and everything Mark covered in the post, I’m leaning towards the following implementation:
1.) Port local # to a call tracking service. Use this phone number on Google+, all citations, and in the footer of the website and add schema markup.
2) Use DNI insertion throughout the website to more accurately track the source of new leads.
This seems like a win-win to me. We have consistent NAP data which matched the schema on the website, and at the same time we are tracking the sources of new leads!
I’m very excited about this and curious to hear what you guys think.
@Chris
As a note on DNI, Google bots and Google searchers all need to see the same number and that number needs to be your actual NAP.
Mike,
If realy concerned for DNI you can have a default number, this default can be your NAP phone if desired. Then the numbers shown to site views from the different source can be the tracking numbers. Not sure if CallRail does that or not but that is how we built our system.
I have been an agency for 6 years and we built our own call tracking this past year to have it do everything we want.
But showing a tracking number in the header and the NAP with schema in the footer has always worked fine for us.
Cheers,
Matt
@Gyi, I am not saying “Do not use DNI on local business websites.” I am saying “Use DNI on local business websites only for paid campaigns.” At this point I recommend using DNI on paid campaigns for local businesses that care about NAP consistency. While I know that people use DNI for organic local search campaigns (even CallRail clients), because the possibility of affecting NAP consistency is high I do not recommend it. For paid campaigns it is immensely valuable. My perspective comes from experiences in local search that have made me much more cautious when deploying call tracking numbers.
Our customer success team is going to be helpful in assisting whatever kind of implementation a client wants to have. Just because I only recommend DNI for paid campaigns does not mean we’re going to limit how people use our platform. I hope that makes sense.
To recap: Use a single source tracking number for local SEO. For anything paid use DNI. I’ve had quite a bit of success using this method and have never run into NAP headaches as a result.
Awesome. This was a great discussion. I’m going to do some testing of my own and share my findings. Mike and Mark, thanks for putting this info together and thank you to those that shared their experience. -Chris
@Matt – That’s been our approach in some limited tests too. Of course, there’s still a risk of confusing something / someone, but seems to greatly mitigate that risk.
@Mark & Gyi
Google’s John Mueller noted this to me:
The important part is that Googlebot sees the same content as other users from that region would see when clicking through to the URL. For example, if your site varies content based on the user’s location, then it’s important that Googlebot – when crawling from the US – would see the same content as other users from the US when clicking through from the search results.
You can substitute number for content…here is the original post.
@Mark – Thanks for the leadership and attention to this. I understand the distinction you’re making. I guess I would just add that customer success folks should be bringing this issue to customers’ attention. I recognize that call tracking companies want to remain “SEO agnostic,” but IMHO, that’s like a CMS or web hosting company trying to be SEO agnostic.
Anyway, thanks again. Always helpful to get insight from smart people who have a lot of experience with these matters.
Great article Mike & Mark 🙂
I’m still trying to learn as much as I can about this – as I am (still) worried about the citation/NAP issues 🙂
Hi Mike,
Excellent article. Call tracking is very important for local SEO, especially for small businesses counting on phone call like restaurants, plumbers, beauty salons, doctors, etc. Call tracking will just make the whole conversion optimization picture clearer.
Thanks a lot for your tips
We use the method that Matt speaks of, forwarding original number to track number, then back to the business. I’m not sure why you would go through the troubles and time to port a local number?
Is this method a no-no?
@Chris P.
The method you’re referring to is something that may work fine (most of the time) but keep in mind that you’re adding on another piece of infrastructure and complexity. Now we’re talking about 3 phone lines: the original, the call tracking line, and the receiving line at the business. With that comes an increased risk of a call not being handled properly by all parties. That being said it’s likely a small risk.
Porting a number really isn’t a pain, per se. It depends entirely on your telecom’s handling of number porting. Assuming you’re porting an existing business line over to a call tracking provider, you’re likely getting a new number provisioned from the same company you’re porting away from (in order to receive the forwarded calls at the business). This often provides enough incentive to get the port done without much trouble. Some have internal processes that can make the ordeal more cumbersome and take a few weeks, but really it’s not as big of a pain as you might think. I’ve done it before (from T-Mobile to Verizon) and it was painless & instantaneous. At CallRail we help clients do it all the time.
I hope this is helpful! Let me know if you have any more questions.
@Mark
A very helpful piece here. What would you recommend to large, multi-location brands where porting is not feasible due to scale and coordination?
So, if you port a local number to a track service how do you determine the leads that your work is bringing in versus someone finding the client via yellow pages, newspaper, word of mouth, or any other source?
Basically you are tracking every call that comes into a business that may have had this number for 20+ years, right?
Thanks!
Thank you Mark & Mike for sharing your thoughts on call tracking.
For local business, call tracking is great future for Number of call was generated by your local seo and local marketing campaign.
Just curious Mike, I am sure Google is aware of this issue about Call tracking number and it conflict with NAP consistency. Why they have not coming up specific tags for that .
Mike, Thank you, Thank you! As I’m sure you remember our relationship started based on this issue. In those days very few SEO’s were even aware of this problem. Thanks for communication the problem and solution!
@Mike
You are more than welcome…. I am sure as some of the other posters have pointed out, there are some variations on this theme but it has always made sense to me to do… it just needs to be done judiciously.
@Matt – RE: large, multi-location businesses
I would first ask why you think it’s not feasible to port the numbers. 😉 If that’s not an option and you want all the benefits of call tracking enabled lines, then the other option is to get new, local numbers for each location.
Previous to joining CallRail I worked on an account with more than 1200 locations across the U.S. We acquired new local numbers for each location and then updated all the major data providers with this new phone number. It’s a balancing act, though, as franchisees or location managers have to ‘buy in’ to the reason to switch numbers. This usually isn’t a big concern once they see the expanded functionality of their phone systems with call tracking enabled.
If you’re going this route for a large multi-location client or business, I would take a few steps to make sure you’re setting yourself up for success.
1. Get the numbers one month early and/or work with your call tracking provider to make sure you’re getting numbers that haven’t received any calls in the past month. Getting them one month before using them AND making sure they haven’t received a call for a month would be best.
2. Get a plan in order to update major data providers and 2nd tier citations with the new number.
3. Educate the franchisees and/or location managers on the reasons for switching, and make sure the people answering the phones know the new number in case data providers call to verify.
This may sound daunting to some people but having done it before, it’s not something I would be afraid of doing. It simply a matter of extra work on the front-end of your ongoing citation management. The benefits of call tracking for multi-location clients I’ve worked with in the past has been a HUGE win for these clients. The visibility into call volume at the corporate level has the effect of revolutionizing the way large companies think about territories and customer acquisition. Feel free to reach out to me on Twitter @mpsulli if you have more questions on this.
I would add the following to what Mark just said:
1a- (as noted in the article) put the number into Google and see if it shows as a citation for someone else
4. Add the original number to Google as a second number. The number doesn’t really show there and is hard to but allows Google to accrete the citations to the listing and prevents fragmentation
@Chris – RE: taking credit for calls where it’s not due
This is one of the main problems with looking at aggregate call volume. Focus on First Time Callers as a more reliable KPI for your work. For most businesses a year of call data will catch the majority of repeat callers. Once you have a year’s worth of data (and much less for some businesses), that First Time Caller metric is the gold standard for how well your local SEO campaign is doing.
@Mike
I agree. Adding those two steps will make the transition even smoother. We’re actually working on implementing your suggestion of searching Google at the provisioning stage here at CallRail. Basically, instead of having to do the search yourself we would do the search for you and show you the search results to help you make a quicker decision. I’m not sure exactly how it will work but it’s in discussion. Thanks for the product development, Mike! 😉
@MikeBlumenthal @MarkSullivan
Thanks to you both for the input! Lots of Mikes, Marks, Matts in this thread btw…last names seemed necessary.
Mike, first of all let me confess that I am one of those stupids, who did not know any thing about call tracking before coming across this extremely enlightening blog of yours. Never knew that call tracking could also be a way of evaluating SEO efforts and it sounds so commonsensical!
Mike, Mark: A recent call, an interaction with a customer and a discussion made me think of this recent discussion. To reiterate, I’ve monitored 3 different call monitoring lead measuring projects in the past, and listened to every call. Additionally years before I did the SEO for a couple of businesses and I took the phone calls. I was sort of a one man call tracking system.
To reiterate, there are 2 big values I see from call tracking: One is measurement. But its not exact or precise. It might be, if there is a very specific advertising medium and its tied to a particular phone number. (Of course…that runs into potential issues vis a vis NAP–as vigorously discussed above). Otherwise the measurement capability of the system might range from very good to not that telling.
The other incredibly valuable resource is listening to one’s staff on the phone with customers. I heard terrible staff interaction. It cost business. That in its own right could be worth the value of call monitoring. Maybe significantly more than any particular marketing program. Its often astonishing how much is lost and in how many different types of businesses. Recently I’ve heard repeatedly of doctors and dentists losing customers because of terrible interactions with the front staff, on calls and personally.
That is an astonishing phenomena. Nobody monitors it. Its value could be astronomical.
Parenthetically in one of the cases I monitored we listened in on a potential customer (the new customers as referenced above as opposed to repeat calls). The response on the phone from the business was pathetic. The beauty of the system was that we had the phone number of the caller. Follow up calls were made. Interaction was better. A transaction was made. By the way it was a large value transaction (on behalf of the smb–that was in the business of large value transactions).
In the above case, it was the follow up that did the trick and created value.
The incident that reminded me of this situation was a result of a phone conversation with regard to a sale. The purchaser was pretty conversant. As part of the conversation he referenced he had investigated several direct competitors.
It turns out the competition was miserable. All of them They turned off the purchaser. Our staff was great. Its why he purchased with our business.
We’ve actually been aware of this for a long time. Possibly decades. We might have learned it the hard way decades ago, but it turns out we remedied the situation long ago. Its always worked for us and we’ve always focused on it. Because it works.
When you listen to calls its astounding how bad how many staffs are across business spectrum. I’ve never seen data on measuring the cost of this. I’m sure its astronomical. I’ve been aware of it for a long time. It always crops up.
Anyway with regard to our particular business as referenced above, we were enthralled to know virtually all of the competition is currently missing on this key ingredient. They are still missing on it. That is great.
In one context listening on your own business’es calls might be of greater value than any single marketing program. Its incredibly insightful.
Cripes you might listen on the calls on your direct line that is tied into your NAP and not have to worry about any of the technical issues discussed above.
Its worthwhile to consider.
@Dave, Awesome input. I’ve heard this time and time again, not just from CallRail customers, but from my clients. I helped them set up call tracking for the purpose of attribution but the main benefit they always tell me the appreciate the most out of call tracking is not attribution: it’s call recording. Even in the case studies we’ve been doing here at CallRail we hear that listening to call recordings has saved our customers loads of money, sometimes becoming more important as a feature than tying the call back to a particular campaign.
We’re developing real time listening functionality currently that will allow a CallRail user to listen in to an ongoing call from wherever they are, thereby enabling people to give customer service support in real time. While not every business has the bandwidth to listen in on every call, for new employees or receptionists at an office it may prove invaluable.
Thanks for sharing!
Mark: Interesting that you are monitoring this so closely, and thanks for the quick response. One other little point…somewhat more for Mike,who has depth and versatility and for all those folks that spend all their energy on following just local/maps/GoogleMyBusiness.
The customer who purchased from our business and turned away from other competitors. Interesting about his location: We are the most distant. Considerably distant. I suspect he found us on the web. If it was dependent on GMB visibility and search…we were easily the furthest away.
In his mind we blew away the competition in terms of responsiveness, being good on the phone, etc.
That last part doesn’t have much to do with Google My Business, Maps visibility, etc. Its sort of related to things like reviews, definitely customer service.
Its really worth a lot.
Mark – great post.
Interestingly enough, we used a call tracking number for own company in local results, and have had great success.
Sometimes – it’s a tougher sell for the business owner, but we use call tracking numbers with call rail for all of our paid search campaigns, and use the javascript code to swap the number on the paid session.
Question: can you tag the DNI code, so that Google reads the actual local number and ignores the DNI?
Thanks for the kind words @Andrew. We’re fans of what you all are doing over there at Adster with the simplified lead reporting, btw!
@Jeff M, You can but getting back to what @Mike wrote earlier, Google says that their bot should see the same thing as a normal website visitor. Plus, search engines have been known to change the name of their bots over time so you’d have to keep track of the bots in order to make sure your conditional logic accounted for new ones. I hope that answers your question!
Hey Mark, thanks for the answer. How about inserting images of the phone numbers?
@Mark
Re: why I believe it’s not feasible to port the numbers…
Because porting the actual location numbers would result in the numbers no longer being installed at the locations, my understanding is that each location would need to have a replacement phone line installed at their locations to replace those numbers we’d be porting away.
For a large franchise business where my coordination between local phone companies and authorization from each location is required in our case, the task seems unmanageable.
I’m glad to see that you invited @Mark to comment. We’ve had good success with our integrated marketing using tracking numbers. Because I tend to proceed conservatively, we used one line for online and another for offline. I have not tested dynamic but since some lead generation specialists use different lines for various online citations, I think dynamic might be a better choice when it comes to the NAP. Thoughts?
Also, since we do reputation, the call tracking recordings have identified areas where staff needs training. Since the call volume was so high, we were able to identify how many calls were being missed due to hangups or redirection to voice mail.
Additionally, when Charter put in new phone lines, they configured them incorrectly losing a ton of callers–another issue that was identified through the tracking.
I also like knowing what number of calls are serious leads, where they are coming from, and what services they are calling about.
In all cases, the tracking number provides valuable data to both the marketing agency and the business. I think it is a win-win and look for it to trend further.
Great article. Since many searchers click to call direct from the maps listing, what number should go in the GMB listing without triggering a penalty?
Mike: Probably only you will read this. Its months since this piece went up. I’ve been on the phones for one of our smb’s. Its also on an aggressive sales/marketing campaign.
Anyway, I took a call. The caller essentially described exactly which “marketing campaign” got her to see a SE result for our business.
We spoke. Based on knowledge via the source of the ad and based on other info I could adjust the responses accordingly.
Now, if I were a marketing firm the call would have been invaluable. I could trace the click on the source and I could listen to a tape of the call; and I could point it out as an example of the effectiveness of the call.
If I’m a business operator paying for the campaign and the marketing firm, I’d see the result of the call, its cost, and I’d listen to the response from staff.
I could assess everything; its costs, its effectiveness on a target market, and the effectiveness of staff responding on the phones.
The package is really valuable and insightful. But everything needs to be tied together; assessing the campaign for costs/contacts and the end result; The end result might be entirely dependent on the effectiveness of staff responding on the phone.
But the package is very insightful. I like call monitoring as a mechanism to assess marketing campaigns and the effectiveness of staff on the phone.
A remarkably insightful program to give an operator insights into how things work on the leads and revenue side of things.
What? You mean there aren’t hordes hanging on every word in this thread?
Hey Mike,
There is some discussion right now going on about this. If a business uses DNI but has their proper info marked up correctly with Schema, does this still risk ranking issues?
Has anyone actually used DNI on a local site for SEO? If so, what was the negative (if any) outcome?
@Joy – We have used DNI on a local site for SEO in limited instances. We have yet to experience negative outcome. That’s certainly not scientific and I wouldn’t recommend anyone rely on my limited experience. Just to clarify: DNI toll-free numbers with local nap + markup.
I suppose there’s always some risk. The question is cost/benefit. If your business comes from calls from your site, w/o tracking numbers, it seems to me you’re quite limited in knowing what’s working and what’s not.
Perhaps I’m not fully appreciating the size of the risk of such an implementation. I suppose I’ll have a different view if we “get burned.”
@gyi as long as the google bot and the Google searcher see the same thing then you are ok. Otherwise Google could see it as “cloaking”. Beyond that it shouldn’t be a problem.
@Gyi – that is really helpful. Thanks for the feedback. I am still wondering if this was one of those cases where I was being paranoid for no reason…
We have many CallRail clients that use DNI and haven’t had problems. They set up call tracking to track all visits from all sources, including paid & unpaid local search, which swaps out the number each session. As @Gyi mentioned in his comment, one of the best ways to hedge the risk of using DNI for all visits is to have schema markup that denotes the location’s phone number. As @Mike pointed out, make sure you’re treating Googlebot the same as you would a normal visitor.
I think the one sentence I’d revise in the guide above is the one about the margin for error when using DNI for local seo. I wrote that the margin is “large” but a better representation of that risk would be that it exists, and there are certainly ways to mitigate that risk. The way to avoid it completely is to follow the guide above for the fool-proof method. If you determine that the benefits of DNI outweigh the risk (however large or small) to NAP consistency, then take precautions to mitigate that risk like using schema and regular citation audits. For some of our clients at CallRail, the precision of attribution attainable through DNI is more than worth it.
@Mark – Thanks for creating this great resource!
I am now going to be including benefits of tracking & recording into all of my campaigns. I would like to be be sure before I implement this strategy that I am understanding the process correctly.
In my instance the Dr. does not want to port, or change their phone #. I have purchased 10 tracking numbers for various campaigns in which 1 of them will be used in my GMB, all local and business directories to address the NAP consistency. I am creating a new site for them that will have said tracking # on it and be linked to all the above directories/listings.
Here is where the water muddies for me, What do I do with their original site with their old phone # on it?
I was thinking of putting the tracking # on their older site in schema in the footer, or adding their old phone # as an alternate # in their listings…
I would appreciate any feedback on this scenario, and would like to thank everyone on this thread for their valuable information!
@Robert, thanks for the kind words. I’m glad you’re finding this guide useful.
There are a few options. You could always forward the existing phone number to the organic tracking number you’ve set up. While this isn’t ideal (since you’re forwarding a number to a number to a number), it should work nonetheless. We have customers at CallRail who do this.
Without knowing the full picture and considering the info you’ve given, here’s what I would do in your situation if the above is not an option.
1. Use the schema markup on the existing website for the organic, call tracking-enabled phone number.
2. Update all citations around the web with the organic tracking enabled phone number.
3. Monitor rankings regularly to ensure you’re not having a detrimental effect on visibility.
Keep in mind that the NAP consistency ranking factor is more of a signal to noise ratio than an all-or-nothing ranking factor. What I mean by this is that if the overwhelming amount of data points out there are saying that this business’s phone number is X, then the effect on ranking of having a few Y phone numbers out there is going to be minimal.
Lastly, I’ll add that when I’ve had clients who are not open to changing numbers or porting existing numbers, they always drop their resistance after I show them results from any call tracking measured campaign I’m doing for them. Because it’s a new paradigm for some business owners, selling call tracking sometimes boils down to educating/showing the client what the value is in real terms. Every single one of my clients is now a huge fan of measuring local SEO campaign performance using call tracking.
Thanks for the great article! I realize my comment is a little late, but I had a question.
I have a client that uses tracking numbers through YP, Dex Media & Yelp. This has caused a bit of a nightmare for NAP consistency.
Now we are seeing that other listings are picking up these tracking numbers as the business number, which is resulting in a number of duplicates.
My question is–if the client doesn’t want to change their current strategy, what’s the best way to essentially do the best I can with what I have. For example, is it better for them to have a duplicate on a directory site (one with the correct number & one with the incorrect one) or is it better to have just one listing (with the incorrect number).
Just curious if anyone has had experience with this. Thanks!
1-Make sure that Dex etc give you the numbers
2-Enter them all at Google as secondary numbers
3- Get a new client
Hi,
Great article! I’m still trying to determine if I should change all of my citation and website info to reflect a local number (currently it displays a number from another state). My website doesn’t appear in the local pack and I’m worried that it’s because the number on my site and citations is not local. I manage my citations with Yext so, updating the number to a local/tracked one would be relatively simple. Do you guys think it would improve my local SEO, and possibly help me appear in the local pack if I updated to a local # everywhere?
Here is an email that I received from CallRail very recently on the subject of if DNI effects local SEO rankings, would love to get your thoughts on this, he said that this is an article from his CEO:
Chris,
Here is the article on SEO and NAP:
Although there is a lot of speculation between NAP and call tracking, there is a right and wrong way to use call tracking services. You first have to understand what Dynamic Number Insertion (DNI) is, to then understand how DNI doesn’t affect SEO scores.
is a process that marketers use to measure the impact of digital efforts on inbound phone calls. When a lead clicks through to your site from any advertisement, DNI technology displays a number that’s unique to the specific search engine, web page, keyword or other source.
Dynamic Number Insertion (DNI) works by automatically displaying a unique phone number on your site based on each visitor’s Google search. It does this using a snippet of JavaScript code in place of your phone number. Since Google indexing doesn’t spider JavaScript, you can use DNI to display trackable numbers on your site that Google can’t see. The end result is that with DNI, you get the full benefits of tracking calls back to Google SEO and PPC ads, and your Google local search rankings aren’t impacted. It’s a win-win.
http://www.callrail.com/blog/what-you-need-to-know-about-call-tracking-local-seo/
What is the Truth?
Call tracking, when used correctly does not hurt SEO. That’s the truth. Even most ardent call tracking opponents admit that. The correct way to use call tracking is to use call tracking DNI.
Why Do Some Say Call Tracking Hurts SEO?
Because of NAP.
Google makes it very clear that Name Address and Phone number (NAP) have to be consistent across all online directories. Having different phone numbers in a ton of different places confuses Google’s algorithms and will hurt your SEO. This is why a few local marketers have written articles criticizing call tracking.
They’re right about one thing. Call tracking numbers should not be used in various directory listings across the web. That will hurt your SEO. This is common knowledge (or should be).
That said, as long as you use call tracking DNI, your SEO score will not suffer. Through DNI, the primary company phone number will remain the same on the website while some website visitors may see another phone number when they arrive on the website.
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Cheers,
@Chris
I find the email somewhat disingenuous and it mixes truths, half truths and non truths to draw its conclusions.
1- Google does and can read dynamically inserted java script. See We Tested How Googlebot Crawls Javascript (Point 3) at SearchEngineLand by Adam Audette. Thus they can see you delivering numbers different than you main number via their bots.
2- Google also considers it claoking to show one phone number in search and a different one on your website via DNI. Also having a different number on your local pages and on your website via DNI will also cause trouble with your local listing.
3- The letter is totally correct vis a vis adwords. Use DNI all you want.
4- However you should always show the main Google bot and any Google searcher your main phone number.
CallRail supports that feature so this is not a reason not to do call tracking. Just a reason to not implement DNI quite the way that they said in the email.
So the best practice is
1- Use your main phone number across the web citations and at Google local
2- Port your main number to Callrail so you can track new visitors to that number per their article
3- Use DNI for any incoming traffic from Adwords and other non Google sites
4- Use your actual number for bots and organic traffic from Google.
@Chris – Hey, I’m the CEO & Co-founder of CallRail, and I want to apologize personally for the incorrect information you received from our sales team last week.
The article that was shared in the email you received wasn’t written by me — I’m not sure how those wires got crossed, but I’m going to work with the team to ensure it doesn’t happen again.
As Mike Blumenthal points out, that article contains several inaccuracies, and I agree with the best practices that Mike shared in his comment above.
I take the search-friendliness of CallRail very seriously, and I take pride in having a deep understanding of this topic so we can build a product that provides the marketing analytics our customers need while maintaining search-engine friendliness.
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