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	<title>Comments on: Loci 2012 Important Trends in Local –  Ted Paff</title>
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	<description>Developing Knowledge about Local Search</description>
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		<title>By: Carmen Brodeur</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2013/01/10/loci-2012-important-trends-in-local-ted-paff/comment-page-1/#comment-591999</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen Brodeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that Google Local is a mess and that it is priortizing profit over usability. It is very difficult to work with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Google Local is a mess and that it is priortizing profit over usability. It is very difficult to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Oremland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Oremland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Randy:

thanks for that very terse but incredibly descriptive journey.  How telling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Randy:</p>
<p>thanks for that very terse but incredibly descriptive journey.  How telling.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Oremland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Oremland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ted:

Very thoughtful piece with terrific references to insightful other articles.  As you said that there is &quot;so much truth referenced to the following article &quot;it hurts&quot;:  http://www.crashdev.com/2012/01/top-three-reasons-not-to-do-local.html

How true, that is an incredibly insightful article.  

I saw a thread from redditt in the DC subsection.  It was started by a laid off LS (livingsocial) employee.  A part of the thread describes the processes and pressures on the inside about sales:   http://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/140hoq/laid_off_from_livingsocial_ama/

Holy crow its expensive and daunting to try and create revenues...and with all those expenses its no wonder LS hit the cash crunch wall.

I tend to think of &quot;Local&quot; as almost too big a description covering so many topics.  That in its own right suggests opportunities to branch into specialties within this huge world or to focus on verticals, especially one&#039;s that are big money.  Additionally while they are both &quot;local&quot; the buying process for deciding where to dine out versus choosing medical or legal professional services is dramatically different.

So I met with a rep of a business that represents &quot;smbs&quot; in one of the largest verticals around.  One little thing that stunned me....more than 75% of their leads were coming from google.    

Ooof that leaves 25% for every other entity, specialty, affiliate.  Not a big chunk. 

Google is big.  Everyone else is small.

thanks for your insights, perspectives and article references.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted:</p>
<p>Very thoughtful piece with terrific references to insightful other articles.  As you said that there is &#8220;so much truth referenced to the following article &#8220;it hurts&#8221;:  <a href="http://www.crashdev.com/2012/01/top-three-reasons-not-to-do-local.html">http://www.crashdev.com/2012/01/top-three-reasons-not-to-do-local.html</a></p>
<p>How true, that is an incredibly insightful article.  </p>
<p>I saw a thread from redditt in the DC subsection.  It was started by a laid off LS (livingsocial) employee.  A part of the thread describes the processes and pressures on the inside about sales:   <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/140hoq/laid_off_from_livingsocial_ama/">http://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/140hoq/laid_off_from_livingsocial_ama/</a></p>
<p>Holy crow its expensive and daunting to try and create revenues&#8230;and with all those expenses its no wonder LS hit the cash crunch wall.</p>
<p>I tend to think of &#8220;Local&#8221; as almost too big a description covering so many topics.  That in its own right suggests opportunities to branch into specialties within this huge world or to focus on verticals, especially one&#8217;s that are big money.  Additionally while they are both &#8220;local&#8221; the buying process for deciding where to dine out versus choosing medical or legal professional services is dramatically different.</p>
<p>So I met with a rep of a business that represents &#8220;smbs&#8221; in one of the largest verticals around.  One little thing that stunned me&#8230;.more than 75% of their leads were coming from google.    </p>
<p>Ooof that leaves 25% for every other entity, specialty, affiliate.  Not a big chunk. </p>
<p>Google is big.  Everyone else is small.</p>
<p>thanks for your insights, perspectives and article references.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After having waded through about 350 clients in 5 years, starting off with a low, low monthly, and slowly moving my prices up, I finally have a stable client base of 20+ that pays the bills, allows for a few associates to do the grunt work, and results in a 2% income.  But it took over 4 years.  I think for those who are ok to make $60,000, there are plenty of very small businesses willing to pay $500 a month.  Or if you are willing to work with the $10,000,000 sales and up crowd, you can charge for it.  I chose the $500,000-$2,000,000 set, and was surprised how difficult it was to break six figures in net.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After having waded through about 350 clients in 5 years, starting off with a low, low monthly, and slowly moving my prices up, I finally have a stable client base of 20+ that pays the bills, allows for a few associates to do the grunt work, and results in a 2% income.  But it took over 4 years.  I think for those who are ok to make $60,000, there are plenty of very small businesses willing to pay $500 a month.  Or if you are willing to work with the $10,000,000 sales and up crowd, you can charge for it.  I chose the $500,000-$2,000,000 set, and was surprised how difficult it was to break six figures in net.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Paff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Paff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chad
I agree that the growing complexity of local search amounts to a Full Employment Act for local search consultants.]]></description>
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I agree that the growing complexity of local search amounts to a Full Employment Act for local search consultants.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Kimball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The articles about a &#039;local search alternative&#039; show why I wouldn&#039;t want to attempt to develop the next Yelp. But they&#039;re actually a pretty convincing argument for getting into the local search consulting business. SMBs need people who do understand their ROI to help them market in local online search.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The articles about a &#8216;local search alternative&#8217; show why I wouldn&#8217;t want to attempt to develop the next Yelp. But they&#8217;re actually a pretty convincing argument for getting into the local search consulting business. SMBs need people who do understand their ROI to help them market in local online search.</p>
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