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	<title>Comments on: The Disconnect Between What SMBs Use Facebook For and What Consumers Use it For</title>
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		<title>By: How Consumers Find a B &#38; B &#124; Understanding Google Places &#38; Local Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Consumers Find a B &#38; B &#124; Understanding Google Places &#38; Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of Facebook and other social networks. Like in the lawyer study, Facebook usage for this task was more than 10 x less than the use of search. More interesting to me is the apparent importance of &#8220;pimping [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Facebook and other social networks. Like in the lawyer study, Facebook usage for this task was more than 10 x less than the use of search. More interesting to me is the apparent importance of &#8220;pimping [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bogdan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bogdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great chart Mike. Thanks for sharing. In my opinion, the only way one can make FB deliver is to permanently interact with the audience, which is quite time consuming, and the results are rather poor.
But think of this scenario: Facebook building its own search engine, integrated in the platform itself.
Right now Facebook is killing the SMS with the Facebook Messenger for Android.
I wonder how long now until, is trying to take over the search too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great chart Mike. Thanks for sharing. In my opinion, the only way one can make FB deliver is to permanently interact with the audience, which is quite time consuming, and the results are rather poor.<br />
But think of this scenario: Facebook building its own search engine, integrated in the platform itself.<br />
Right now Facebook is killing the SMS with the Facebook Messenger for Android.<br />
I wonder how long now until, is trying to take over the search too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lenoce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Lenoce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a wedding photographer I could count on referral business from facebook a few years ago, merely by tagging clients and their friends in photos. Other photographers have reported a decline in the effectiveness of facebook recently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a wedding photographer I could count on referral business from facebook a few years ago, merely by tagging clients and their friends in photos. Other photographers have reported a decline in the effectiveness of facebook recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@carter
Let know when you publish it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carter<br />
Let know when you publish it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@carter
Let know when you publish it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carter<br />
Let know when you publish it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carter Bowles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carter Bowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook is also losing its novelty. ComScore reports time spent on the site is down 12 percent from last year. Among teens, that drop is 42 PERCENT. The young adults used it 25 percent less.

It&#039;s becoming boring. And that&#039;s not a good sign either, because according to other studies, people use it for entertainment more than self expression or communication.

And of course, those studies also show that they use it less for finding information than anything else.

I&#039;ll be mentioning your article over on Northcutt.com in a week or so. Thanks for the info.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook is also losing its novelty. ComScore reports time spent on the site is down 12 percent from last year. Among teens, that drop is 42 PERCENT. The young adults used it 25 percent less.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s becoming boring. And that&#8217;s not a good sign either, because according to other studies, people use it for entertainment more than self expression or communication.</p>
<p>And of course, those studies also show that they use it less for finding information than anything else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be mentioning your article over on Northcutt.com in a week or so. Thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/12/12/the-disconnect-between-what-smbs-use-facebook-for-and-what-consumers-use-it-for/comment-page-1/#comment-587787</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris 
No need to apologize. ROI is difficult to measure when you are looking for retention, community building and awareness. They are all several steps away from a sale which is much easier to quantify.

The lower frequency, less emotional and shorter time there is to a purchase cycle the less valuable social engagement is. IE everyone needs cars, they are emotionally engaged in the process and purchase has a moderate and repetitive frequency over a relatively long period... that makes for a great social engagement environment where a company can benefit from all the things that social offers. The final step of that long, emotional process is the local search at Google that leads to the trackable sale and the measurable ROI. 

Clients need a criminal lawyer very infrequently, have little or no emotional connection and usually the &quot;purchase cycle&quot; is very short. The client goes from need to Google Local search in no time flat. 

My point is that not every business is necessarily a good fit for social. 

But even in businesses that are a good fit for social it is notoriously difficult for SMBs to track the value of the pre purchase cycle. Often like in the car scenario above the business entity doing all the social work isn&#039;t even the one that gets the sale. 

I am not saying that SMBs shouldn&#039;t engage in social. I just think that they need to think through the presale role very carefully to be sure that the investment is worth it 

Post sale is another issue altogether... but even there the social networks have not done a good job of creating a great environment for SMBs to interact with their clients.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris<br />
No need to apologize. ROI is difficult to measure when you are looking for retention, community building and awareness. They are all several steps away from a sale which is much easier to quantify.</p>
<p>The lower frequency, less emotional and shorter time there is to a purchase cycle the less valuable social engagement is. IE everyone needs cars, they are emotionally engaged in the process and purchase has a moderate and repetitive frequency over a relatively long period&#8230; that makes for a great social engagement environment where a company can benefit from all the things that social offers. The final step of that long, emotional process is the local search at Google that leads to the trackable sale and the measurable ROI. </p>
<p>Clients need a criminal lawyer very infrequently, have little or no emotional connection and usually the &#8220;purchase cycle&#8221; is very short. The client goes from need to Google Local search in no time flat. </p>
<p>My point is that not every business is necessarily a good fit for social. </p>
<p>But even in businesses that are a good fit for social it is notoriously difficult for SMBs to track the value of the pre purchase cycle. Often like in the car scenario above the business entity doing all the social work isn&#8217;t even the one that gets the sale. </p>
<p>I am not saying that SMBs shouldn&#8217;t engage in social. I just think that they need to think through the presale role very carefully to be sure that the investment is worth it </p>
<p>Post sale is another issue altogether&#8230; but even there the social networks have not done a good job of creating a great environment for SMBs to interact with their clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crickets...but you got me, I&#039;m reaching for an empty holster. I only have modest examples of ROI that I would honestly be ashamed to cite in a public forum. Small ROI, smaller sample - but present, defineable, &amp; realized.

No proof out of me though. Maybe in a future blog post or something. I&#039;ll be sure to link it over.

Efficient accurate tracking allows the proper ROI calculations, that&#039;s a huge gray area too in my limited experience - seems the majority of SMBs I deal with struggle to answer the question of how they acquire new customers and especially how much they&#039;re paying to do so.

I liked this link on social ROI: http://www.business2community.com/social-media/cheap-qualified-leads-from-social-a-lesson-in-the-value-of-social-media-0354530

ROI is list building, reviews, recommendations, tags in photos...all builds awareness...part of the buying cycle - in addition to the direct word of mouth.

Accurate measurement is more than weeding through the chaff, it&#039;s having the correct benchmarks - and that remains a huge challenge in defining social ROI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crickets&#8230;but you got me, I&#8217;m reaching for an empty holster. I only have modest examples of ROI that I would honestly be ashamed to cite in a public forum. Small ROI, smaller sample &#8211; but present, defineable, &amp; realized.</p>
<p>No proof out of me though. Maybe in a future blog post or something. I&#8217;ll be sure to link it over.</p>
<p>Efficient accurate tracking allows the proper ROI calculations, that&#8217;s a huge gray area too in my limited experience &#8211; seems the majority of SMBs I deal with struggle to answer the question of how they acquire new customers and especially how much they&#8217;re paying to do so.</p>
<p>I liked this link on social ROI: <a href="http://www.business2community.com/social-media/cheap-qualified-leads-from-social-a-lesson-in-the-value-of-social-media-0354530">http://www.business2community.com/social-media/cheap-qualified-leads-from-social-a-lesson-in-the-value-of-social-media-0354530</a></p>
<p>ROI is list building, reviews, recommendations, tags in photos&#8230;all builds awareness&#8230;part of the buying cycle &#8211; in addition to the direct word of mouth.</p>
<p>Accurate measurement is more than weeding through the chaff, it&#8217;s having the correct benchmarks &#8211; and that remains a huge challenge in defining social ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the biggest things I attempt to get SMBs to understand is that you need to be where your customers are while not getting caught up in the fervor.

I have yet to see a significant return on time or money invested in social networks but do anticipate social signals and cross integration to trend up in 2013 as it relates to search.

Even those who swear (usually social media peeps) that they have an ROI cannot give me any figures from social networking. 

Anyone have any?

Good points about the uses of networks and influences because of it. 

I usually lurk in the background but had to chime in on this one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the biggest things I attempt to get SMBs to understand is that you need to be where your customers are while not getting caught up in the fervor.</p>
<p>I have yet to see a significant return on time or money invested in social networks but do anticipate social signals and cross integration to trend up in 2013 as it relates to search.</p>
<p>Even those who swear (usually social media peeps) that they have an ROI cannot give me any figures from social networking. </p>
<p>Anyone have any?</p>
<p>Good points about the uses of networks and influences because of it. </p>
<p>I usually lurk in the background but had to chime in on this one!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They sure have. And if only ~10% of connections see the word of mouth, it&#039;s tough to justify the resources.

Reviews were there for awhile but disappeared, at least with a little warning.

Reviews indexable on Bing, done deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sure have. And if only ~10% of connections see the word of mouth, it&#8217;s tough to justify the resources.</p>
<p>Reviews were there for awhile but disappeared, at least with a little warning.</p>
<p>Reviews indexable on Bing, done deal.</p>
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