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	<title>Comments on: Google Local Weekend Update</title>
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		<title>By: Linda Buquet</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582238</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Buquet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve posted about the category issue a few times in great detail. Here are a couple points/tips.

Currently even though Google is only showing 1 or 2 cats and I hiding the rest, I believe she&#039;s reading them all and ranking them all - even uncommon cats. 

PLUS there is a way to see hidden cats - if you need to see if a listing has a specific cat and you don&#039;t have access to the dashboard. (As in doing competitive research.) 

If you search City + Category in G Maps it will show you the category EVEN if it&#039;s hidden on the G+ Local page.

Example: Denver Sedation Dentist (A custom/non standard category)
http://goo.gl/maps/QFtnD

Maps search shows the ones that have that category listed in their dashboard. But if you click to view their G+L pages, most just show the generic category Dentist or some other cat.

So to me that says Google is still reading and indexing those cats even though they don&#039;t show on the listing currently.

The same thing holds true after merge - providing you already had cats entered in the Places dashboard.  They&#039;ll show with the right map search.

After everything upgrades to G+ and the Places dashboard is gone - who knows for sure. My spidey senses tell me the ability to select categories may go away and Google may use whatever 3rd party data she feels is relevant, to categorize the business - just like she does with G+L snippets. (Which as we know are sometimes wrong.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted about the category issue a few times in great detail. Here are a couple points/tips.</p>
<p>Currently even though Google is only showing 1 or 2 cats and I hiding the rest, I believe she&#8217;s reading them all and ranking them all &#8211; even uncommon cats. </p>
<p>PLUS there is a way to see hidden cats &#8211; if you need to see if a listing has a specific cat and you don&#8217;t have access to the dashboard. (As in doing competitive research.) </p>
<p>If you search City + Category in G Maps it will show you the category EVEN if it&#8217;s hidden on the G+ Local page.</p>
<p>Example: Denver Sedation Dentist (A custom/non standard category)<br />
<a href="http://goo.gl/maps/QFtnD">http://goo.gl/maps/QFtnD</a></p>
<p>Maps search shows the ones that have that category listed in their dashboard. But if you click to view their G+L pages, most just show the generic category Dentist or some other cat.</p>
<p>So to me that says Google is still reading and indexing those cats even though they don&#8217;t show on the listing currently.</p>
<p>The same thing holds true after merge &#8211; providing you already had cats entered in the Places dashboard.  They&#8217;ll show with the right map search.</p>
<p>After everything upgrades to G+ and the Places dashboard is gone &#8211; who knows for sure. My spidey senses tell me the ability to select categories may go away and Google may use whatever 3rd party data she feels is relevant, to categorize the business &#8211; just like she does with G+L snippets. (Which as we know are sometimes wrong.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582236</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David

At this point, the G+ Business page DOES NOT override the categories created elsewhere in the system. IE MM and the Dashboard are still feeding the beast. 

The reason to link to the +Local page would be for reputation management and front page exposure, particularly on branded search. Beyond that I can not see a reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David</p>
<p>At this point, the G+ Business page DOES NOT override the categories created elsewhere in the system. IE MM and the Dashboard are still feeding the beast. </p>
<p>The reason to link to the +Local page would be for reputation management and front page exposure, particularly on branded search. Beyond that I can not see a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: David Faltz</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582235</link>
		<dc:creator>David Faltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is not what I was asking, but that is an interesting point, because I read a post the other day from someone on SEOMoz that said that was a valid strategy. What I was asking is does it make sense to connect the google + plus local page currently instead of still utilizing the dashboard as the main source. It seems by connecting to the google + local and selecting the generic category there, that may override the category I am selecting as my primarily category in the current dashboard format. Considering the obvious limitations to the current categories in plus, maybe leaving it as is, until forced otherwise would be beneficial. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is not what I was asking, but that is an interesting point, because I read a post the other day from someone on SEOMoz that said that was a valid strategy. What I was asking is does it make sense to connect the google + plus local page currently instead of still utilizing the dashboard as the main source. It seems by connecting to the google + local and selecting the generic category there, that may override the category I am selecting as my primarily category in the current dashboard format. Considering the obvious limitations to the current categories in plus, maybe leaving it as is, until forced otherwise would be beneficial. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582234</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David
Google has never used inbound links to the Place/Local + as a way to determine category. There is no reason to believe that they would do so now. 

If you read the Location Prominence patent you will see that they define an &quot;Authority Document&quot; which is the website for the business or if they don&#039;t have one then the most prominent business listing. The relevance of a listing comes from the categories, the business name, review content and the content of that document. If categories were to go away there may be additional signals directed at the website but they would not be about the G+ Local page or inbound links to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David<br />
Google has never used inbound links to the Place/Local + as a way to determine category. There is no reason to believe that they would do so now. </p>
<p>If you read the Location Prominence patent you will see that they define an &#8220;Authority Document&#8221; which is the website for the business or if they don&#8217;t have one then the most prominent business listing. The relevance of a listing comes from the categories, the business name, review content and the content of that document. If categories were to go away there may be additional signals directed at the website but they would not be about the G+ Local page or inbound links to it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Faltz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Faltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So then does it makes sense to link your pages to new the new interface as of yet since the categories are so limited? Will that override the categories currently selected in dashboard? Or six of one, half a dozen of another?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then does it makes sense to link your pages to new the new interface as of yet since the categories are so limited? Will that override the categories currently selected in dashboard? Or six of one, half a dozen of another?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582230</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David

Great question. At this point, they seem to still be relevant. 

But... if you notice, categories are nowhere to be found in the new G+ interface. In fact in that interface you are not even allowed to select a category with any granularity at all. You are only given an option to indicate that you are a retail store or a restaurant.  

Also note that the main interface to create categories, Places for Business, is going away. I don&#039;t know exactly what that means for the future of categories. But if categories are no more in G+ and the dashboard is gone then some future change might apply to both standard AND custom categories. 

What&#039;s Google got planned? Who knows. For now categories and custom categories are relevant. What the future holds is unclear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David</p>
<p>Great question. At this point, they seem to still be relevant. </p>
<p>But&#8230; if you notice, categories are nowhere to be found in the new G+ interface. In fact in that interface you are not even allowed to select a category with any granularity at all. You are only given an option to indicate that you are a retail store or a restaurant.  </p>
<p>Also note that the main interface to create categories, Places for Business, is going away. I don&#8217;t know exactly what that means for the future of categories. But if categories are no more in G+ and the dashboard is gone then some future change might apply to both standard AND custom categories. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s Google got planned? Who knows. For now categories and custom categories are relevant. What the future holds is unclear.</p>
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		<title>By: David Faltz</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582229</link>
		<dc:creator>David Faltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, does that mean custom categories do not carry weight anymore? or just do not show up when looking at the listing? If it is just not showing, then who cares. If custom categories are now irrelevant, which I can not find any current instance of, then that is a different story all together. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, does that mean custom categories do not carry weight anymore? or just do not show up when looking at the listing? If it is just not showing, then who cares. If custom categories are now irrelevant, which I can not find any current instance of, then that is a different story all together. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582137</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No wonder we had some category clairvoyance client conversations last week...

They were clairvoyant...not us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder we had some category clairvoyance client conversations last week&#8230;</p>
<p>They were clairvoyant&#8230;not us!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kuiper</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582100</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kuiper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mike... I&#039;m trying to keep up ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike&#8230; I&#8217;m trying to keep up <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Linda Buquet</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2012/10/07/google-local-weekend-update/comment-page-1/#comment-582093</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Buquet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike thanks for the great weekend update and the links.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike thanks for the great weekend update and the links.</p>
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