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		<title>By: Google Hotel Finder Experiment &#8211; A Peak at the Future of Local Search as Interactive Content &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/16/the-rubicon-has-been-crossed-local-pages-as-transaction-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-552590</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Hotel Finder Experiment &#8211; A Peak at the Future of Local Search as Interactive Content &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] their still secretive hotel booking tool. All in all it is in impressive experiment with a subtle transactional nature. It is both more polished and definitely better looking than most Google experiments. It is very [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their still secretive hotel booking tool. All in all it is in impressive experiment with a subtle transactional nature. It is both more polished and definitely better looking than most Google experiments. It is very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Calendar Appointment Slots &#8211; Infrastructure for Places Scheduling? &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Calendar Appointment Slots &#8211; Infrastructure for Places Scheduling? &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and similar products have slowly been moving towards becoming a transaction environment. Last November Google rolled out, on a limited basis, a hotel booking [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and similar products have slowly been moving towards becoming a transaction environment. Last November Google rolled out, on a limited basis, a hotel booking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish Bing would improve their customer service. I have a listing that has been waiting for 3 months to be published. No matter what I do or where I post for help the status stays &quot;Pending Approval&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Bing would improve their customer service. I have a listing that has been waiting for 3 months to be published. No matter what I do or where I post for help the status stays &#8220;Pending Approval&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Cathy

Sometimes the current model in the hotel industry is 
Consumer ---&gt;SE---&gt;Affiliate----&gt;Aggregator----&gt; Merchant

Google&#039;s New Model
Consumer ---&gt;SE/SE Local----&gt;Aggregator/Merchant----&gt; Merchant

In both cases, Google was receiving the advertising, not a direct cut.

In this particular case, the result is actually closer to the merchant... that being said, in some markets like restaurants Open Table is a new intermediary with it likely that Bing is receiving a cut.

That is what demonstrates the failing of the model. It isn&#039;t disintermediation at all but reintermediation... adding a new, costly layer to the process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cathy</p>
<p>Sometimes the current model in the hotel industry is<br />
Consumer &#8212;>SE&#8212;>Affiliate&#8212;->Aggregator&#8212;-> Merchant</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s New Model<br />
Consumer &#8212;>SE/SE Local&#8212;->Aggregator/Merchant&#8212;-> Merchant</p>
<p>In both cases, Google was receiving the advertising, not a direct cut.</p>
<p>In this particular case, the result is actually closer to the merchant&#8230; that being said, in some markets like restaurants Open Table is a new intermediary with it likely that Bing is receiving a cut.</p>
<p>That is what demonstrates the failing of the model. It isn&#8217;t disintermediation at all but reintermediation&#8230; adding a new, costly layer to the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 04:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That Open Table link is a very, very scary thing for a lot of SMBs. Read a summary of &lt;a href=&quot;http://incanto.biz/2010/10/22/is-opentable-worth-it&quot; / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the real cost of being listed on Open Table&lt;/a&gt; from SF&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://incanto.biz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Incanto&lt;/a&gt;. 

No doubt, floral wire services (FTD, Teleflora, 1-800Flowers) would &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; a link to book flowers from a local florist like that - and harvest about 40% of the total price paid by the consumer (based on their current commissions and fees).   

Disintermediation, indeed. The web &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; help consumers make direct connections with providers. 

But this new move takes: Consumer -----&gt; Merchant...  to 

Consumer -----&gt; Search Engine (who now gets a cut???) -----&gt; Marketing Firm (who also takes a big cut) -----&gt; Merchant.

This is affiliate marketing gone mad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Open Table link is a very, very scary thing for a lot of SMBs. Read a summary of <a href="http://incanto.biz/2010/10/22/is-opentable-worth-it"></a>the real cost of being listed on Open Table from SF&#8217;s <a href="http://incanto.biz/">Incanto</a>. </p>
<p>No doubt, floral wire services (FTD, Teleflora, 1-800Flowers) would <i>love</i> a link to book flowers from a local florist like that &#8211; and harvest about 40% of the total price paid by the consumer (based on their current commissions and fees).   </p>
<p>Disintermediation, indeed. The web <i>should</i> help consumers make direct connections with providers. </p>
<p>But this new move takes: Consumer &#8212;&#8211;&gt; Merchant&#8230;  to </p>
<p>Consumer &#8212;&#8211;&gt; Search Engine (who now gets a cut???) &#8212;&#8211;&gt; Marketing Firm (who also takes a big cut) &#8212;&#8211;&gt; Merchant.</p>
<p>This is affiliate marketing gone mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kyle
Yes it is fertile territory as the long tail of local branded searches is very large in aggregate.... as are the discovery searches.... 2-3 billion a month on Google alone... and everyone of the large sites moving into local thinks that if they only get a few coins per each they will get rich... 

@David
I have often wondered whether Google&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/16/google-places-problems-in-tag-land-hell-hath-no-fury-like-an-smb-scorned/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;current approach to customer service&lt;/a&gt; will bite them in the end... things are just getting going, they have a chance to fix it but if they take their current path the will be burning a number of bridges]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kyle<br />
Yes it is fertile territory as the long tail of local branded searches is very large in aggregate&#8230;. as are the discovery searches&#8230;. 2-3 billion a month on Google alone&#8230; and everyone of the large sites moving into local thinks that if they only get a few coins per each they will get rich&#8230; </p>
<p>@David<br />
I have often wondered whether Google&#8217;s <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/16/google-places-problems-in-tag-land-hell-hath-no-fury-like-an-smb-scorned/">current approach to customer service</a> will bite them in the end&#8230; things are just getting going, they have a chance to fix it but if they take their current path the will be burning a number of bridges</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Alm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Alm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook also has a real simple ecommerce capability on their pages too. 

It&#039;s apparently the space that everyone wants to occupy whether you are search engine or a social network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook also has a real simple ecommerce capability on their pages too. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s apparently the space that everyone wants to occupy whether you are search engine or a social network.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David - Do you remember the Yellow Pages? There was a time, as recently as 2005 when Google and Yahoo launched local services, that the Yellow Pages were the only real game in town. The result was ridiculously high fees for smb advertisers and limited access points for consumers.

Having dealt with several sales reps over at Google with the Boost and Tags products I see the biggest issue being a huge conflict of interest. 

What made Google the winner early on in the search wars was the implied fairness and quality of their search results. Recent changes and pushes to monetize the local results has, in my mind, blurred the quality of said results. If this trend continues Google will be opening the door to competitors who can take over the quality and unbiased nature of early Google.

For any of us who have been in the LSEO space as long as I have will agree that Google pretty much stinks for customer service. Until recently it has really only been us who have experienced it. More and more I am hearing from general consumers that Google seems a bit big and powerful. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out especially with new products that will further call on customer service expertise from big rainbow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; Do you remember the Yellow Pages? There was a time, as recently as 2005 when Google and Yahoo launched local services, that the Yellow Pages were the only real game in town. The result was ridiculously high fees for smb advertisers and limited access points for consumers.</p>
<p>Having dealt with several sales reps over at Google with the Boost and Tags products I see the biggest issue being a huge conflict of interest. </p>
<p>What made Google the winner early on in the search wars was the implied fairness and quality of their search results. Recent changes and pushes to monetize the local results has, in my mind, blurred the quality of said results. If this trend continues Google will be opening the door to competitors who can take over the quality and unbiased nature of early Google.</p>
<p>For any of us who have been in the LSEO space as long as I have will agree that Google pretty much stinks for customer service. Until recently it has really only been us who have experienced it. More and more I am hearing from general consumers that Google seems a bit big and powerful. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out especially with new products that will further call on customer service expertise from big rainbow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David

It is true that no one has envisioned the scale that Google is contemplating.... an ad, an order, a booking, a piece of inventory from every local business every where in the world.... it is breathtaking and scary at all once. 

Monopoly, though, is the nature of capitalism. What ends up happening in the regulatory worlds is monopoly wannabees gang up on monopoly success stories...in the end, the user, customer and SMB do not make out all that well there either...

It sure portends interesting times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David</p>
<p>It is true that no one has envisioned the scale that Google is contemplating&#8230;. an ad, an order, a booking, a piece of inventory from every local business every where in the world&#8230;. it is breathtaking and scary at all once. </p>
<p>Monopoly, though, is the nature of capitalism. What ends up happening in the regulatory worlds is monopoly wannabees gang up on monopoly success stories&#8230;in the end, the user, customer and SMB do not make out all that well there either&#8230;</p>
<p>It sure portends interesting times.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mihm</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mihm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I largely agree with you that Google disintermediating (one of the three new buzzwords from BIA Kelsey conference last week) thin affiliates is largely a good thing for SMB&#039;s, making Place Pages transactional is only going to intensify the heat from stories like this one:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/is-google-too-big-to-shop/index.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Reback contends that Google is increasingly taking control of the local search market and, by extension, the local economies. “It’s breathtaking to contemplate what Google is building,” he said. “No one has ever contemplated this kind of control over local markets.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I largely agree with you that Google disintermediating (one of the three new buzzwords from BIA Kelsey conference last week) thin affiliates is largely a good thing for SMB&#8217;s, making Place Pages transactional is only going to intensify the heat from stories like this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/is-google-too-big-to-shop/index.html">http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/is-google-too-big-to-shop/index.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Reback contends that Google is increasingly taking control of the local search market and, by extension, the local economies. “It’s breathtaking to contemplate what Google is building,” he said. “No one has ever contemplated this kind of control over local markets.”</p></blockquote>
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