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	<title>Comments on: Illusory Laptop Repair &#8211; A Most Elegant Google Places Hack</title>
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		<title>By: Google Places Updates Guidelines Updates on PO Box Policy &#124; Understanding Google Places &#38; Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/07/illusory-laptop-repair-a-most-elegant-googleplaces-hack/comment-page-1/#comment-571680</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Places Updates Guidelines Updates on PO Box Policy &#124; Understanding Google Places &#38; Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 12:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] two address field to accommodate them. Unfortunately this was open to abuse by spammers as well (I demonstrated how this hacked worked in late 2010 with the creation of Illusory Laptop [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] two address field to accommodate them. Unfortunately this was open to abuse by spammers as well (I demonstrated how this hacked worked in late 2010 with the creation of Illusory Laptop [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Investigating Google Places Hypocrisy For Address-less Businesses</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/07/illusory-laptop-repair-a-most-elegant-googleplaces-hack/comment-page-1/#comment-543333</link>
		<dc:creator>Investigating Google Places Hypocrisy For Address-less Businesses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] gotten addresses in parks, cemeteries and random places along streets. (Mike Blumenthal has also reported on one address hack that can allow people to obtain listings using a fake address.) I&#8217;ve further received [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gotten addresses in parks, cemeteries and random places along streets. (Mike Blumenthal has also reported on one address hack that can allow people to obtain listings using a fake address.) I&#8217;ve further received [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 06:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the heads up.  I was wondering how the spammers did this.  

You can use a mail forwarding service or virtual office to create a dummy location.  It is a little more expensive than this method, but less prone to Google&#039;s countermeasures to the 1st address line manipulation.  Just be sure to map the address you are going to use - before purchasing it - to make sure it is not overloaded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up.  I was wondering how the spammers did this.  </p>
<p>You can use a mail forwarding service or virtual office to create a dummy location.  It is a little more expensive than this method, but less prone to Google&#8217;s countermeasures to the 1st address line manipulation.  Just be sure to map the address you are going to use &#8211; before purchasing it &#8211; to make sure it is not overloaded.</p>
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		<title>By: PureSheer</title>
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		<dc:creator>PureSheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@John

that summarize everything really nice &amp; help you think what will be next, Or how Google will fight it.

just as a heads up- the biggest Spam technique that I&#039;ve ever encountered  with (&amp; I&#039;ve encountered &amp; exposed heaps of them :-) ) was revealed couple of weeks ago.

We&#039;ll publish it soon. Get ready to be amazed from it simplicity &amp; impact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John</p>
<p>that summarize everything really nice &amp; help you think what will be next, Or how Google will fight it.</p>
<p>just as a heads up- the biggest Spam technique that I&#8217;ve ever encountered  with (&amp; I&#8217;ve encountered &amp; exposed heaps of them <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) was revealed couple of weeks ago.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll publish it soon. Get ready to be amazed from it simplicity &amp; impact.</p>
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		<title>By: John Nagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I promised a paper on this, and it&#039;s now available.  Mike Blumenthal&#039;s technique is covered, along with other effective techniques Google Places spammers are already using.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitetruth.com/doc/placesspam10.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Places” spam – the new front in the spam wars.&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s not a joke any more. So many SEO people are doing this that Google Places results are turning into junk in popular categories. 

&quot;Mountain View, we have a problem&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promised a paper on this, and it&#8217;s now available.  Mike Blumenthal&#8217;s technique is covered, along with other effective techniques Google Places spammers are already using.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sitetruth.com/doc/placesspam10.pdf">“Places” spam – the new front in the spam wars.</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a joke any more. So many SEO people are doing this that Google Places results are turning into junk in popular categories. </p>
<p>&#8220;Mountain View, we have a problem&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Nagle</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/07/illusory-laptop-repair-a-most-elegant-googleplaces-hack/comment-page-1/#comment-542809</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This particular security hole in Google Places comes about because Google isn&#039;t doing postal address standardization properly. Postal addresses are parsed by the USPS from the last line upward.  Google parses from the first line downward. So Google finds a different street address than the USPS does. 

Then, Google doesn&#039;t check the address against business records, like corporate registrations, business licenses, or Dun and Bradstreet. So Google can easily be suckered into displaying phony locations.

This is just one of many ways to overcome Google&#039;s verification system. Others I&#039;ve seen used include getting a chain of low-end convenience stores to forward Google&#039;s postcards, getting temporary phone numbers from the gray market for phone number verification, and, of course, opening GMail accounts in bulk for email verification. 

Google Places spamming is going industrial-scale. There are ads on Amazon&#039;s Mechanical Turk freelancer market for Google Places spammers. Several heavily promoted commercial products and services are already available for spamming Google Places in bulk. Look up &quot;Google Places Unleashed&quot; and &quot;Dominate Google Places&quot; for some painful reading.

Craigslist faced many of the same problems, and lost that battle. Many categories on Craigslist are now mostly spam. Google search could go down the drain in the same way. Google had a good handle on blocking organic web search spam via link farms, but they have no clue about what to do about Places spam. Spamming Places turns out to be very easy, much easier than link farming. Google&#039;s merging of Places results into web search could turn out to be the biggest marketing mistake since New Coke.  

I&#039;m writing a paper on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular security hole in Google Places comes about because Google isn&#8217;t doing postal address standardization properly. Postal addresses are parsed by the USPS from the last line upward.  Google parses from the first line downward. So Google finds a different street address than the USPS does. </p>
<p>Then, Google doesn&#8217;t check the address against business records, like corporate registrations, business licenses, or Dun and Bradstreet. So Google can easily be suckered into displaying phony locations.</p>
<p>This is just one of many ways to overcome Google&#8217;s verification system. Others I&#8217;ve seen used include getting a chain of low-end convenience stores to forward Google&#8217;s postcards, getting temporary phone numbers from the gray market for phone number verification, and, of course, opening GMail accounts in bulk for email verification. </p>
<p>Google Places spamming is going industrial-scale. There are ads on Amazon&#8217;s Mechanical Turk freelancer market for Google Places spammers. Several heavily promoted commercial products and services are already available for spamming Google Places in bulk. Look up &#8220;Google Places Unleashed&#8221; and &#8220;Dominate Google Places&#8221; for some painful reading.</p>
<p>Craigslist faced many of the same problems, and lost that battle. Many categories on Craigslist are now mostly spam. Google search could go down the drain in the same way. Google had a good handle on blocking organic web search spam via link farms, but they have no clue about what to do about Places spam. Spamming Places turns out to be very easy, much easier than link farming. Google&#8217;s merging of Places results into web search could turn out to be the biggest marketing mistake since New Coke.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing a paper on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Maui_Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maui_Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you guys really think that G will let this fly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you guys really think that G will let this fly?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PureSheer
At least I can have my brother fix a laptop if it actually comes in via the Places listing... not sure what I would do with a lock out call. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PureSheer<br />
At least I can have my brother fix a laptop if it actually comes in via the Places listing&#8230; not sure what I would do with a lock out call. <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin Seibert</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/12/07/illusory-laptop-repair-a-most-elegant-googleplaces-hack/comment-page-1/#comment-542483</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Seibert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahahahahaha!  Outstanding - thanks @PureSheer - I really needed that laugh today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahahaha!  Outstanding &#8211; thanks @PureSheer &#8211; I really needed that laugh today.</p>
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		<title>By: PureSheer</title>
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		<dc:creator>PureSheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike

Great experiment! You are at the wrong biz. You should go Locksmith!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p>Great experiment! You are at the wrong biz. You should go Locksmith!!</p>
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