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	<title>Comments on: Google Places: Selective Reviews Now Being Removed</title>
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		<title>By: Steve D.</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-547306</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike

I wouldn&#039;t consider spreading love to the competition as punishing Google. I just don&#039;t want to perpetuate the &quot;Google is God&quot; myth, lol. As to doing Places optimization work, I may still offer it, but I&#039;m certainly going to be removing any implication of performance guarantee with all the see-sawing G is doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t consider spreading love to the competition as punishing Google. I just don&#8217;t want to perpetuate the &#8220;Google is God&#8221; myth, lol. As to doing Places optimization work, I may still offer it, but I&#8217;m certainly going to be removing any implication of performance guarantee with all the see-sawing G is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-547303</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Steve

&quot;Punishing&quot; Google really ends up punishing you and the client that wants to use them. You by not having prominent footprint there. What if they change their algo? and I don&#039;t agree that 3rd party is worth more than Google.

As to the client what if it is there favorite site?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve</p>
<p>&#8220;Punishing&#8221; Google really ends up punishing you and the client that wants to use them. You by not having prominent footprint there. What if they change their algo? and I don&#8217;t agree that 3rd party is worth more than Google.</p>
<p>As to the client what if it is there favorite site?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve D.</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-547301</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike

Yes Mike I show our customers CitySearch, Insiderpages, DealerRater, Yelp, and Superpages. I stopped sending them directly to Google months ago after learning that the 3rd party site reviews were more likely to help GP rankings. 

Agree Yahoo is diminishing rapidly but I will try to start utilizing them more, just like I am trying to shop more at Kmart. I like competition and would hate it if the world ended up being made of nothing but Google and Walmart. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p>Yes Mike I show our customers CitySearch, Insiderpages, DealerRater, Yelp, and Superpages. I stopped sending them directly to Google months ago after learning that the 3rd party site reviews were more likely to help GP rankings. </p>
<p>Agree Yahoo is diminishing rapidly but I will try to start utilizing them more, just like I am trying to shop more at Kmart. I like competition and would hate it if the world ended up being made of nothing but Google and Walmart. <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-547300</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Steve
My suggestion was and is: use as many review sites as makes sense for you AND your customers. Choice for the customer is critical, broad foot print is critical for you and it is an important defensive measure to have a good blend of 3rd party AND Google reviews so if they misplace one or the other you always have something to show for it.

Despite changes in the review landscape, for many types of businesses I still recommend these four review sites: Google, Citysearch (for its Facebook login), Yelp and although of declining import, Yahoo. Diversity, respect for customer choice, broad footprint are still the order of the day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve<br />
My suggestion was and is: use as many review sites as makes sense for you AND your customers. Choice for the customer is critical, broad foot print is critical for you and it is an important defensive measure to have a good blend of 3rd party AND Google reviews so if they misplace one or the other you always have something to show for it.</p>
<p>Despite changes in the review landscape, for many types of businesses I still recommend these four review sites: Google, Citysearch (for its Facebook login), Yelp and although of declining import, Yahoo. Diversity, respect for customer choice, broad footprint are still the order of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve D.</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-547298</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MiriamEllis

Many of our customers name the salesperson they dealt with and gave them high marks. So that is not the earmark of a fake review. The customer just happened to think the salesman was good to them and wanted to put that on record. Nothing wrong with that at all.

I&#039;m hoping that Yelp and others don&#039;t go overboard like Google (yes I know of Yelp&#039;s history, but hopefully they have learned some moderation in the process).  It really bites to have the best customer service policy in the county - bar none (we know it and our customers know it) - and be penalized because we got so many glowing (but very legit) reviews.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MiriamEllis</p>
<p>Many of our customers name the salesperson they dealt with and gave them high marks. So that is not the earmark of a fake review. The customer just happened to think the salesman was good to them and wanted to put that on record. Nothing wrong with that at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that Yelp and others don&#8217;t go overboard like Google (yes I know of Yelp&#8217;s history, but hopefully they have learned some moderation in the process).  It really bites to have the best customer service policy in the county &#8211; bar none (we know it and our customers know it) &#8211; and be penalized because we got so many glowing (but very legit) reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve D.</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-547297</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As with the case Mike B. quoted above, we had 32 totally legit reviews for our dealership. Yes we showed customers where to post their reviews, but we did not incentivize for positive reviews at all. First sign of trouble was when Google suddenly double-posted the 10 reviews that were posted directly on GP so it then showed 42. I notified them of their error (probably my biggest mistake). Within a week or so, they dropped our review count to 28 (below the legit 32), and since then they&#039;ve been dropping more steadily until now they only give us a 6 review count. So much for Google Places. Yelp, Yahoo, Bing...here we come. I also do work for other companies too, and from now on, no more pointing the mobile sites to G Maps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with the case Mike B. quoted above, we had 32 totally legit reviews for our dealership. Yes we showed customers where to post their reviews, but we did not incentivize for positive reviews at all. First sign of trouble was when Google suddenly double-posted the 10 reviews that were posted directly on GP so it then showed 42. I notified them of their error (probably my biggest mistake). Within a week or so, they dropped our review count to 28 (below the legit 32), and since then they&#8217;ve been dropping more steadily until now they only give us a 6 review count. So much for Google Places. Yelp, Yahoo, Bing&#8230;here we come. I also do work for other companies too, and from now on, no more pointing the mobile sites to G Maps.</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Reviews Starting to Get Mainstream Media Attention &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-546048</link>
		<dc:creator>Fake Reviews Starting to Get Mainstream Media Attention &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Google, Yelp and Tripadvisor have implemented some measures to limit fake reviews, the efforts have only been partially successful. Given the increasing media coverage [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google, Yelp and Tripadvisor have implemented some measures to limit fake reviews, the efforts have only been partially successful. Given the increasing media coverage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hs</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-541071</link>
		<dc:creator>hs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I would prefer to see if a greyed out review of potentially questionable reviews(Unverified) and not count them in the numbers, much like google does with the serps. Removing reviews only causes more issues, see Yelp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would prefer to see if a greyed out review of potentially questionable reviews(Unverified) and not count them in the numbers, much like google does with the serps. Removing reviews only causes more issues, see Yelp.</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-541066</link>
		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dum de dum dum &lt;i&gt;DUM&lt;/i&gt;!

Uh-oh, here it comes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dum de dum dum <i>DUM</i>!</p>
<p>Uh-oh, here it comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/11/10/google-places-selective-reviews-now-being-removed/comment-page-1/#comment-541065</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Miriam

Yes the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=373a1e1e36a8f934&amp;fid=373a1e1e36a8f934000494b30352e272&amp;hl=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feedback&lt;/a&gt;&quot; has already started in the forums:

&lt;em&gt;We lost ALL (60) Google reviews, all were 5 out of 5 stars really setting us apart.  It took a long time to get all those and they&#039;re all legit.  We have identified nearly every review for which customer it was and have an invoice, email, phone number, address to prove it.  Other than asking for a review and explaining how to do it, there has never been involvement by anyone other than the customer in putting those review up in their own words, on their own time, their own computers, without ANY incentives.

It&#039;s sickening to lose all that hard work and to top it off, our competitors who didn&#039;t lose their reviews think all ours were fake now.  How do we know?  Because they&#039;re telling potential customers this!&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Miriam</p>
<p>Yes the &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=373a1e1e36a8f934&amp;fid=373a1e1e36a8f934000494b30352e272&amp;hl=en">feedback</a>&#8221; has already started in the forums:</p>
<p><em>We lost ALL (60) Google reviews, all were 5 out of 5 stars really setting us apart.  It took a long time to get all those and they&#8217;re all legit.  We have identified nearly every review for which customer it was and have an invoice, email, phone number, address to prove it.  Other than asking for a review and explaining how to do it, there has never been involvement by anyone other than the customer in putting those review up in their own words, on their own time, their own computers, without ANY incentives.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sickening to lose all that hard work and to top it off, our competitors who didn&#8217;t lose their reviews think all ours were fake now.  How do we know?  Because they&#8217;re telling potential customers this!</em></p>
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