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	<title>Comments on: Google Places and the Professional&#8217;s Place Pages &#8211; Should there be multiples?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-554275</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike,

Thanks for the response. I am working on a Lawyer&#039;s listing and his main office listing was flagged.  We adjusted the listing so that it once again fit Google&#039;s guidelines, however, the listing is yet to appear in results.  

During that process, a listing appeared on Google for our main lawyer, which appears in results for our keywords.  We&#039;d like to get the main office listing back up there as well and I am just making sure that having two listings is acceptable.

Thanks for the response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike,</p>
<p>Thanks for the response. I am working on a Lawyer&#8217;s listing and his main office listing was flagged.  We adjusted the listing so that it once again fit Google&#8217;s guidelines, however, the listing is yet to appear in results.  </p>
<p>During that process, a listing appeared on Google for our main lawyer, which appears in results for our keywords.  We&#8217;d like to get the main office listing back up there as well and I am just making sure that having two listings is acceptable.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-554271</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam

I am not sure what you are asking. Lawyers are allowed one listing per practice and one per practitioner... this opportunity has even made it into the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/support/places/bin/answer.py?answer=107528&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guidelines&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;em&gt;You may create one listing per practitioner, and one listing for the office.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam</p>
<p>I am not sure what you are asking. Lawyers are allowed one listing per practice and one per practitioner&#8230; this opportunity has even made it into the <a href="http://www.google.com/support/places/bin/answer.py?answer=107528">Guidelines</a>:</p>
<p><em>You may create one listing per practitioner, and one listing for the office.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-554269</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this still relevant with Google? Since it has been over a year.

I am trying to optimize a page for a lawyer who was dropped and has since to return to results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this still relevant with Google? Since it has been over a year.</p>
<p>I am trying to optimize a page for a lawyer who was dropped and has since to return to results.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Buquet</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-544726</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Buquet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barb,

Another option is to charge per dupe. I charge an extra 200 per month for dupes because they are so time consuming. Almost every Place page in my niche has 1 - 2 dupes because of Google&#039;s problematic data scraping. So I can&#039;t turn away clients with a dupe because every single one of mine has them.

But I won&#039;t take clients any more that have more than 2. Clients with tons typically have tried to over-optimize and have broken the rules multiple times or they are heavy marketers with all kinds of messy upstream data problems including keywords in name and tracking numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barb,</p>
<p>Another option is to charge per dupe. I charge an extra 200 per month for dupes because they are so time consuming. Almost every Place page in my niche has 1 &#8211; 2 dupes because of Google&#8217;s problematic data scraping. So I can&#8217;t turn away clients with a dupe because every single one of mine has them.</p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t take clients any more that have more than 2. Clients with tons typically have tried to over-optimize and have broken the rules multiple times or they are heavy marketers with all kinds of messy upstream data problems including keywords in name and tracking numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-544706</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a present problem I&#039;m having with a client&#039;s listing.  A divorce attorney with 16 different listings covering their specialties.   Only two lawyers work the business, yet they have 16 listings.  This is against Google TOS and is spamming the search engines.

Since listings are claimed by phone number, no other listing for them showed up for me to claim.   After doing all the work of building a proper listing, I can&#039;t figure out why my listing will not show up.  So I do a search on the business name and what do I find?  A total of 16 listings for ONE business, TWO lawyers.  A few had different addresses and phone numbers for different offices, but all the same business name.  Some listings have the same biz name, phone number and address.

Now I am claiming and deleting...claiming and deleting.  Work that should be charged for.  And of course,  each one I claim only has the option of post card verification.   This is taking far too much of my time.  Usually my listings show immediately, but not so for this steaming pile of a hot mess.

Talking with my partner who handles all the sales,  I suggested that before taking their money, we need to research just exactly what they already have listed and what kind of mess they have made trying to do this themselves.  If they have multiple listings, such as what this lawyer has, we should not accept them as clients until they clean it up  themselves.    My partner agrees and is now our new policy.

He showed me the places page of a potential client.  I immediately saw a whole host of problems, one being there are 8 categories on the places page when there should only be 5.  This means there is already a problem of merging with another listing.  Further search revealed 5 listings for the same business.    Not going to waddle through that maze and we opted to not accept this client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a present problem I&#8217;m having with a client&#8217;s listing.  A divorce attorney with 16 different listings covering their specialties.   Only two lawyers work the business, yet they have 16 listings.  This is against Google TOS and is spamming the search engines.</p>
<p>Since listings are claimed by phone number, no other listing for them showed up for me to claim.   After doing all the work of building a proper listing, I can&#8217;t figure out why my listing will not show up.  So I do a search on the business name and what do I find?  A total of 16 listings for ONE business, TWO lawyers.  A few had different addresses and phone numbers for different offices, but all the same business name.  Some listings have the same biz name, phone number and address.</p>
<p>Now I am claiming and deleting&#8230;claiming and deleting.  Work that should be charged for.  And of course,  each one I claim only has the option of post card verification.   This is taking far too much of my time.  Usually my listings show immediately, but not so for this steaming pile of a hot mess.</p>
<p>Talking with my partner who handles all the sales,  I suggested that before taking their money, we need to research just exactly what they already have listed and what kind of mess they have made trying to do this themselves.  If they have multiple listings, such as what this lawyer has, we should not accept them as clients until they clean it up  themselves.    My partner agrees and is now our new policy.</p>
<p>He showed me the places page of a potential client.  I immediately saw a whole host of problems, one being there are 8 categories on the places page when there should only be 5.  This means there is already a problem of merging with another listing.  Further search revealed 5 listings for the same business.    Not going to waddle through that maze and we opted to not accept this client.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Getch</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-544436</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Getch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike, 

I had just cleaned up 5 duplicate listings for a dental client of mine and had them at the top of the Google Places SERPS. Then the data gets fed backthrough (Mainly from HealthGrades.com) and I&#039;m dealing with the same issue again. 

It&#039;s not HealthGrades fault. They actually have the better system. I strongly believe Google Should have the ability to associate sub-listings or professional listings beneath a business listing. But, until then, the best option is to delete the dentists from HealthGrades before cleaning up the listings. 

Any additional thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike, </p>
<p>I had just cleaned up 5 duplicate listings for a dental client of mine and had them at the top of the Google Places SERPS. Then the data gets fed backthrough (Mainly from HealthGrades.com) and I&#8217;m dealing with the same issue again. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not HealthGrades fault. They actually have the better system. I strongly believe Google Should have the ability to associate sub-listings or professional listings beneath a business listing. But, until then, the best option is to delete the dentists from HealthGrades before cleaning up the listings. </p>
<p>Any additional thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-544187</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;If a business owns over 20 brick and mortar locations and has 120 doctors in their practice that serve the same location everyday how would they set up Google Places properly to meet Google terms?...&lt;/strong&gt;

A Google Places product manager answered this last year: &gt; MB: What is Google’s recommended practice in regards to handling the multiple listings that most professionals and clinics end up with? &gt; Should we endeavor to have one listing for the practice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If a business owns over 20 brick and mortar locations and has 120 doctors in their practice that serve the same location everyday how would they set up Google Places properly to meet Google terms?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A Google Places product manager answered this last year: &gt; MB: What is Google’s recommended practice in regards to handling the multiple listings that most professionals and clinics end up with? &gt; Should we endeavor to have one listing for the practice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Universal Business Listings News and Blog &#124; Universal Business Listings (UBL.org) Announces New Professional Group Class of Listings for Local Search Syndication – Provides Distinct Online Visibility Method</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-543774</link>
		<dc:creator>Universal Business Listings News and Blog &#124; Universal Business Listings (UBL.org) Announces New Professional Group Class of Listings for Local Search Syndication – Provides Distinct Online Visibility Method</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * See for example : http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-m... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] * See for example : <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-m..">http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-m..</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Places Update- Numerous Professionals with 1 Street Address Can Have Multiple Places Listings&#160;&#124;&#160;Page1Listings &#8211; Internet Marketing For Small Businesses</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-503788</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Places Update- Numerous Professionals with 1 Street Address Can Have Multiple Places Listings&#160;&#124;&#160;Page1Listings &#8211; Internet Marketing For Small Businesses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Freshly picked from a new Blumenthal blog on Understanding Google Maps and Local Search [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linda Buquet</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/05/10/google-places-and-professional-places-pages-should-there-be-multiples/comment-page-1/#comment-492511</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Buquet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 04:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel in the Google support forum just answered a Q about multiple listings for a Dental office.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=0d1a21e6b224d833&amp;hl=en

Not sure if it shines any new light, just noticed it and thought I&#039;d share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel in the Google support forum just answered a Q about multiple listings for a Dental office.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=0d1a21e6b224d833&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=0d1a21e6b224d833&#038;hl=en</a></p>
<p>Not sure if it shines any new light, just noticed it and thought I&#8217;d share.</p>
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