Comments on: Google Maps & Web Designers: Salt in the Wounds http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/ Developing Knowledge about Local Search Wed, 23 May 2012 23:11:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Google Maps Also Showing Display Ads for LBC | Understanding Google Maps & Local Search http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-455812 Google Maps Also Showing Display Ads for LBC | Understanding Google Maps & Local Search Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:02:17 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-455812 [...] Maps has been active both on-line and off promoting the Local Business Center. I noted last week that Google was increasing their [...] [...] Maps has been active both on-line and off promoting the Local Business Center. I noted last week that Google was increasing their [...]

]]> By: Jan http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453619 Jan Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:23:17 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453619 Mike good observations I guess Google figures that SEO's are not really local fodder, (but an electrician that lives 20 miles outside of a large Metro area is) Until they really get an algorythmic grip on what local means ( because it is different in different places) there is bound to be a mess, and of course Google snags the most lucrative placement for it's own marketing - that part does kind of make sense, especially if they plan on charging for the listings later (once everyone has gotten their business listed ) Miriam, I keep wondering why I am not dominating my local results- crap! ...maybe it's because I only got the $6.99 local domination package! Jan Mike
good observations
I guess Google figures that SEO’s are not really local fodder, (but an electrician that lives 20 miles outside of a large Metro area is)
Until they really get an algorythmic grip on what local means ( because it is different in different places) there is bound to be a mess,

and of course Google snags the most lucrative placement for it’s own marketing – that part does kind of make sense, especially if they plan on charging for the listings later
(once everyone has gotten their business listed )

Miriam,
I keep wondering why I am not dominating my local results- crap!
…maybe it’s because I only got the $6.99 local domination package!
Jan

]]> By: Mike http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453463 Mike Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:35:09 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453463 @Kyle Google doesn't need to eviscerate every search to make finding those businesses a lot less likely. If someone is that motivated to include the extra words, in or near, then clearly Google has to cough up the answer sooner or later. While it clearly shows local intent to add the extra prepostions, I just can't imagine any searcher after having just learned that service +city returns the business they are looking for would bother. @Miriam You forgot to include in that $9.99 deal at least 10 top 7 placements in the 7 Pack guarantee @EarlPearl I noted that Google always snared the upper right hand position, which was the reason I showed the second and third screen shots...It does seem to imply that is the most valuable spot. @Jim I wouldn't take the target personally. They have investors to satisfy and growth plans that need feeding. You just happen to be the chum(p?). @Mikeok Clearly any PPC campaign in which Google promotes themselves, they obviously are taking favored positions. @Kyle

Google doesn’t need to eviscerate every search to make finding those businesses a lot less likely. If someone is that motivated to include the extra words, in or near, then clearly Google has to cough up the answer sooner or later. While it clearly shows local intent to add the extra prepostions, I just can’t imagine any searcher after having just learned that service +city returns the business they are looking for would bother.

@Miriam

You forgot to include in that $9.99 deal at least 10 top 7 placements in the 7 Pack guarantee

@EarlPearl

I noted that Google always snared the upper right hand position, which was the reason I showed the second and third screen shots…It does seem to imply that is the most valuable spot.

@Jim

I wouldn’t take the target personally. They have investors to satisfy and growth plans that need feeding. You just happen to be the chum(p?).

@Mikeok

Clearly any PPC campaign in which Google promotes themselves, they obviously are taking favored positions.

]]> By: Kyle Kazak http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453449 Kyle Kazak Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:51:28 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453449 Google still displays local results for "web design near city" like <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=web+design+near+san+francisco%2C+ca&aq=f&oq=&aqi=" title="web design near san francisco, ca" rel="nofollow">Web Design Near San Francisco, Ca </a> For some reason their algorithm must have missed on that word? Same is the case every search I try using seo near city or web design near city. I thought they kept this because it obviously shows local intent, searching for a web designer near their location. Any thoughts? Google still displays local results for “web design near city” like Web Design Near San Francisco, Ca

For some reason their algorithm must have missed on that word?

Same is the case every search I try using seo near city or web design near city.

I thought they kept this because it obviously shows local intent, searching for a web designer near their location.

Any thoughts?

]]> By: MiriamEllis http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453422 MiriamEllis Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:06:23 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453422 Yes, yes, go right ahead and build your company's website with a Free Google Webpage. Why hire a pro? None exist in your town, anyway. And, while you're at it, why not sign up for some $9.99/month search engine submission services. Don't forget to engage in several large reciprocal linking campaigns at a low-low cost. You'll be off to a wonderful start on the web. Is my irony showing? Yes, yes, go right ahead and build your company’s website with a Free Google Webpage. Why hire a pro? None exist in your town, anyway. And, while you’re at it, why not sign up for some $9.99/month search engine submission services. Don’t forget to engage in several large reciprocal linking campaigns at a low-low cost. You’ll be off to a wonderful start on the web.

Is my irony showing?

]]> By: Earlpearl http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453373 Earlpearl Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:48:33 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453373 Aside from salt on the wound, it is startling that the ad is always the top ad on the right hand side of the page. In my experiments it doesn't matter whether there were two ads or 3 ads on the left above the organic results. Hm...I may have to rethink my ppc placement. Is google telling me that the top ad on the right is better than the most expensive ad if its on the left hand side of the page and above the organic results? I think its giving me a signal. Aside from salt on the wound, it is startling that the ad is always the top ad on the right hand side of the page. In my experiments it doesn’t matter whether there were two ads or 3 ads on the left above the organic results.

Hm…I may have to rethink my ppc placement. Is google telling me that the top ad on the right is better than the most expensive ad if its on the left hand side of the page and above the organic results?

I think its giving me a signal.

]]> By: Jim Rudnick http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453357 Jim Rudnick Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:31:52 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453357 sigh..the target on our SEO practitioner's backs seems to grow, eh? I do hope that G approaches this with a "mea culpa" attitude, followed by a fix for us of that ilk. that said, I'm not counting on it....and the word "in" is now so important...wonder if I should add it to my own site's tags, eh? :-) Jim sigh..the target on our SEO practitioner’s backs seems to grow, eh? I do hope that G approaches this with a “mea culpa” attitude, followed by a fix for us of that ilk.

that said, I’m not counting on it….and the word “in” is now so important…wonder if I should add it to my own site’s tags, eh?

:-)

Jim

]]> By: Mikeok http://blumenthals.com/blog/2010/01/04/google-maps-web-designers-salt-in-the-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-453355 Mikeok Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:23:26 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=5709#comment-453355 Hi Mike This is the very issue that is leading to "search neutrality" discussions. Google is now hurting the same SEO companies that help build it. The internet and Google did not grow in a vacuum. It took us coders and HTML experts to get the thing started. Now they are pulling revenue streams from 100's of thousands of companies. I have commented before that Maps is really just driven by an algorithm. It does seem that this "tweak" was done for monetary reasons over a better search experince. It also gives me pause to think about the other verticals they compete in. Maybe the organic search and PPC ads are slanted that way too. Maybe that's why they are gaining market share without large traditional ad budgets. Google has every right to serve results as it sees fit. With that power, comes responsibility. They might be inclined to look at a founding statement for guidance. Shutting out SEO's seems a bit evil. Hi Mike

This is the very issue that is leading to “search neutrality” discussions. Google is now hurting the same SEO companies that help build it. The internet and Google did not grow in a vacuum. It took us coders and HTML experts to get the thing started. Now they are pulling revenue streams from 100′s of thousands of companies.

I have commented before that Maps is really just driven by an algorithm. It does seem that this “tweak” was done for monetary reasons over a better search experince. It also gives me pause to think about the other verticals they compete in. Maybe the organic search and PPC ads are slanted that way too. Maybe that’s why they are gaining market share without large traditional ad budgets.

Google has every right to serve results as it sees fit. With that power, comes responsibility. They might be inclined to look at a founding statement for guidance. Shutting out SEO’s seems a bit evil.

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