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	<title>Comments on: Maps for Recovery &amp; Yelp for Discovery &#8211; a great combo</title>
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		<title>By: Year In Review: Local Search &#38; Maps</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-452520</link>
		<dc:creator>Year In Review: Local Search &#38; Maps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Google&#8217;s reported $500 million offer to buy Yelp that seems to have fallen through. As Mike Blumenthal pointed out, the powerful combination of Google Maps for recovery searches and Yelp for discovery searches [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google&#8217;s reported $500 million offer to buy Yelp that seems to have fallen through. As Mike Blumenthal pointed out, the powerful combination of Google Maps for recovery searches and Yelp for discovery searches [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-450830</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris

Not to worry. Apparently, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/4qbs0c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;deal is off&lt;/a&gt;.

I would agree with you about Yelp&#039;s business practices being less than appealing and Yelp is not directly relevant in many industry segments at this point.

In my opinion, Google was trying to buy was market share dominance of unique page views and the advertising growth. However, it now appears to be a mute point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris</p>
<p>Not to worry. Apparently, the <a href="http://bit.ly/4qbs0c">deal is off</a>.</p>
<p>I would agree with you about Yelp&#8217;s business practices being less than appealing and Yelp is not directly relevant in many industry segments at this point.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Google was trying to buy was market share dominance of unique page views and the advertising growth. However, it now appears to be a mute point.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cummins</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-450828</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole thing makes me a little nervous. I have played with Yelp as I learned more about its importance in local search but it just isn&#039;t a relevant player in my industry vertical (wedding and portrait photography.)

I like many, ask for a review from my clients through Yelp, got four or five of them and not one appears on my company listing now because they are not active &quot;Yelpers.&quot; Add to that the rumors and controversy about Yelp&#039;s advertising pressures and maybe a new boss is what Yelp needs to become more useful to a greater variety of service industries. 
 
I have a lot of faith in Google to nail down &quot;ground truth&quot; as well as it has relevance given the time to make it better. 

If the Yelp local search model is the next way of doing things... I&#039;m going sweat a little. They are not relevant to my client base. How do you see Google potentially using Yelp? Will it replace Google Maps or augment it somehow? And in what way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing makes me a little nervous. I have played with Yelp as I learned more about its importance in local search but it just isn&#8217;t a relevant player in my industry vertical (wedding and portrait photography.)</p>
<p>I like many, ask for a review from my clients through Yelp, got four or five of them and not one appears on my company listing now because they are not active &#8220;Yelpers.&#8221; Add to that the rumors and controversy about Yelp&#8217;s advertising pressures and maybe a new boss is what Yelp needs to become more useful to a greater variety of service industries. </p>
<p>I have a lot of faith in Google to nail down &#8220;ground truth&#8221; as well as it has relevance given the time to make it better. </p>
<p>If the Yelp local search model is the next way of doing things&#8230; I&#8217;m going sweat a little. They are not relevant to my client base. How do you see Google potentially using Yelp? Will it replace Google Maps or augment it somehow? And in what way?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-450807</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Larry

I agree but I also think though that in the case of Yelp...it is more than &quot;feeling out&quot; as the combo of Maps and Yelp creates a growth juggernaut in local that will instantly achieve market dominance of viewers and ads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Larry</p>
<p>I agree but I also think though that in the case of Yelp&#8230;it is more than &#8220;feeling out&#8221; as the combo of Maps and Yelp creates a growth juggernaut in local that will instantly achieve market dominance of viewers and ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-450768</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google rolling up local last mile players seems just like adding real time, both allow Google to feel out the pieces of an evolving &#039;place page&#039; for all results, makes sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google rolling up local last mile players seems just like adding real time, both allow Google to feel out the pieces of an evolving &#8216;place page&#8217; for all results, makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Avante Gardens - florals unique, Anaheim, CA - Orange County Florist Since 1984</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avante Gardens - florals unique, Anaheim, CA - Orange County Florist Since 1984</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;We&#039;re a Google Favorite Place ...&lt;/strong&gt;

The buzz about Google sending out Favorite Places packets with window decals to 100,000 of the “most...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>We&#8217;re a Google Favorite Place &#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The buzz about Google sending out Favorite Places packets with window decals to 100,000 of the “most&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: earlpearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlpearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comments from Business Week on the business aspects of this proposed deal:http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091218_024906.htm?chan=rss_topStories_ssi_5

It appears that Yelp sales people called one of our businesses twice.  That is because we claimed the listing.

I searched on yelp for Italian restaurants in my region.  Yelp is way more urban oriented than suburban and clearly can&#039;t accomodate rural now with a 5 mile search radius.  That works for cities but it doesn&#039;t work for suburbs or exurbs.

Noticed one advertiser that grabbed my attention;  a restaurant I&#039;ve probably gone to for 15-20 years, though not recently;  maybe 20 miles away and w/ a lot of traffic.  I always thought of it as &quot;best&quot;.

Still gets awesome reviews.  The ads were showing when I put in some local jurisdictions but not others.  My eye gravitated toward the ad because I recognized the name.  The ad gave the restaurant presence beyond the 5 mile radius....and reviews included those from people in my area and beyond.  Clearly a suburban business can draw from beyond 5 miles 

Yelp works hard to create a &quot;community&quot; and they have it.

Its a nifty idea by google, its interesting how it worked for you, Mike, its interesting to note that the &quot;quality&quot; of Yelp wannabes is improving.

David:  If Yelp is generating $45 mill in sales now and Google is willing to pay $0.5 billion...that is a lot for that business...but I&#039;m sure they are counting on growth.  

meanwhile, think I&#039;ll go to that restaurant.  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments from Business Week on the business aspects of this proposed deal:<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091218_024906.htm?chan=rss_topStories_ssi_5">http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091218_024906.htm?chan=rss_topStories_ssi_5</a></p>
<p>It appears that Yelp sales people called one of our businesses twice.  That is because we claimed the listing.</p>
<p>I searched on yelp for Italian restaurants in my region.  Yelp is way more urban oriented than suburban and clearly can&#8217;t accomodate rural now with a 5 mile search radius.  That works for cities but it doesn&#8217;t work for suburbs or exurbs.</p>
<p>Noticed one advertiser that grabbed my attention;  a restaurant I&#8217;ve probably gone to for 15-20 years, though not recently;  maybe 20 miles away and w/ a lot of traffic.  I always thought of it as &#8220;best&#8221;.</p>
<p>Still gets awesome reviews.  The ads were showing when I put in some local jurisdictions but not others.  My eye gravitated toward the ad because I recognized the name.  The ad gave the restaurant presence beyond the 5 mile radius&#8230;.and reviews included those from people in my area and beyond.  Clearly a suburban business can draw from beyond 5 miles </p>
<p>Yelp works hard to create a &#8220;community&#8221; and they have it.</p>
<p>Its a nifty idea by google, its interesting how it worked for you, Mike, its interesting to note that the &#8220;quality&#8221; of Yelp wannabes is improving.</p>
<p>David:  If Yelp is generating $45 mill in sales now and Google is willing to pay $0.5 billion&#8230;that is a lot for that business&#8230;but I&#8217;m sure they are counting on growth.  </p>
<p>meanwhile, think I&#8217;ll go to that restaurant.  <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Google + Yelp = Local Search Powerhouse &#187; Everon Technology Insider</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-450431</link>
		<dc:creator>Google + Yelp = Local Search Powerhouse &#187; Everon Technology Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mike Blumenthal&#8217;s thoughts on the potential Google-Yelp acquisition give a lot of insight into why this should matter to you. Mike talks about how he uses both sites. He sees Google Maps as being more for &#8216;recovery&#8217; &#8211; finding a place that you already know about, such as when you&#8217;re looking for the nearest Starbucks. Just whip out the iPhone and a few keystrokes later, you&#8217;ve got its address and directions how to get there. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mike Blumenthal&#8217;s thoughts on the potential Google-Yelp acquisition give a lot of insight into why this should matter to you. Mike talks about how he uses both sites. He sees Google Maps as being more for &#8216;recovery&#8217; &#8211; finding a place that you already know about, such as when you&#8217;re looking for the nearest Starbucks. Just whip out the iPhone and a few keystrokes later, you&#8217;ve got its address and directions how to get there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/18/maps-for-recovery-yelp-for-discovery-a-great-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-450398</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kyle

I would agree

@Miriam

If the deal goes through I think that Yelp gets $, instant ability to scale, access to oodles of data and top notch engineers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kyle</p>
<p>I would agree</p>
<p>@Miriam</p>
<p>If the deal goes through I think that Yelp gets $, instant ability to scale, access to oodles of data and top notch engineers.</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike -
Just wanted to mention that I use the same combo you do (Google and Yelp) when researching local places. The length and detail of Yelp reviews appears to me to exceed that of any other public platform I&#039;ve encountered, and this makes it fun for me. Somehow, Yelp has managed to make this kind of research feel fun. Interesting, huh? Gut feelings like that often guide me in products I end up using over and over again, and my gut feeling about a Google/Yelp merger is that it would be super for Google. Not quite as sure about benefits to Yelp (other than monetary).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike -<br />
Just wanted to mention that I use the same combo you do (Google and Yelp) when researching local places. The length and detail of Yelp reviews appears to me to exceed that of any other public platform I&#8217;ve encountered, and this makes it fun for me. Somehow, Yelp has managed to make this kind of research feel fun. Interesting, huh? Gut feelings like that often guide me in products I end up using over and over again, and my gut feeling about a Google/Yelp merger is that it would be super for Google. Not quite as sure about benefits to Yelp (other than monetary).</p>
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