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	<title>Comments on: Google Ending Local Listing Ad Test in San Francisco and San Diego</title>
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		<title>By: PureSheer</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-449078</link>
		<dc:creator>PureSheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike

when you&#039;re right you&#039;re right!  Since yesterday the ads are not exist anymore. Maybe it was a mistake posting that I still have them alive in your blog as it&#039;s Google favorite. Like the Wikipedia issue, this one got treated really fast.. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p>when you&#8217;re right you&#8217;re right!  Since yesterday the ads are not exist anymore. Maybe it was a mistake posting that I still have them alive in your blog as it&#8217;s Google favorite. Like the Wikipedia issue, this one got treated really fast.. <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-449042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PureSheer

I am not seeing any Local Listing Ads</description>
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<p>I am not seeing any Local Listing Ads</p>
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		<title>By: PureSheer</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-449019</link>
		<dc:creator>PureSheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange, my listings are still alive in both S.D &amp; S.F..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange, my listings are still alive in both S.D &amp; S.F..</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Y</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-448020</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With every bit of good news comes some bad, and with ever bit of bad news comes some good.  

By the time I tried to get LLA for San Diego locksmiths, all the spots had been snagged.  The algo change that Google did to clean up the map spam had wiped out most of the locksmith map spam for my area (San Diego) so I was not surprised to see the same map spam people with the LLA listings.  

So good news is map spam on Google is staying mostly good going on 3 weeks now.  Bad news is; if there are limited spots for LLA, it will be crucial to get one of the spots, or they may be taken over by the same map spam folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With every bit of good news comes some bad, and with ever bit of bad news comes some good.  </p>
<p>By the time I tried to get LLA for San Diego locksmiths, all the spots had been snagged.  The algo change that Google did to clean up the map spam had wiped out most of the locksmith map spam for my area (San Diego) so I was not surprised to see the same map spam people with the LLA listings.  </p>
<p>So good news is map spam on Google is staying mostly good going on 3 weeks now.  Bad news is; if there are limited spots for LLA, it will be crucial to get one of the spots, or they may be taken over by the same map spam folks.</p>
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		<title>By: panzermike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-447612</link>
		<dc:creator>panzermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that SF was cheaper.   But I think they base the algo/price, on whatever the practice areas are.  Since &quot;attorney&quot; more generic than &quot;personal injury attorney&quot;, as an example, I can see that &quot;attorney&quot;, as a general term would yield a higher dollar value.  I cannot see why San Diego would be pricier, as it is smaller population density, and much, much less commerce and other business activity for attorneys in SD. (SD is a college town and hard to get work there)

But it appears it is unlike adwords in that it is not a bid for a slot, or keywords.  It seems like you pay the fee, and if you have your off site factors and domain/onsite right, and LBC set up and optimized right, you would stay high in the paid, as well as 7, 3, or 1 packs. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that SF was cheaper.   But I think they base the algo/price, on whatever the practice areas are.  Since &#8220;attorney&#8221; more generic than &#8220;personal injury attorney&#8221;, as an example, I can see that &#8220;attorney&#8221;, as a general term would yield a higher dollar value.  I cannot see why San Diego would be pricier, as it is smaller population density, and much, much less commerce and other business activity for attorneys in SD. (SD is a college town and hard to get work there)</p>
<p>But it appears it is unlike adwords in that it is not a bid for a slot, or keywords.  It seems like you pay the fee, and if you have your off site factors and domain/onsite right, and LBC set up and optimized right, you would stay high in the paid, as well as 7, 3, or 1 packs. No?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-447573</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collin&#039;s showed that Attorney in San Diego was $110</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collin&#8217;s showed that Attorney in San Diego was $110</p>
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		<title>By: panzermike</title>
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		<dc:creator>panzermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF is selling attorney ads for $75 a month in Local.</description>
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		<title>By: Tym Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tym Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google HAS to introduce this type of advertising.

The vast majority of mom and pop local businesses will never become proficient with the regular AdWords system. The rest are afraid of it, and they won&#039;t pay $250/mo. spend + $250/mo. (mininium) for some agency to manage that spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google HAS to introduce this type of advertising.</p>
<p>The vast majority of mom and pop local businesses will never become proficient with the regular AdWords system. The rest are afraid of it, and they won&#8217;t pay $250/mo. spend + $250/mo. (mininium) for some agency to manage that spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin Holmes</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-447363</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike, I finally just posted some analysis on the Local Listing Ad data that I found here in San Diego.  http://holmesonlocal.wordpress.com/ Hoping you and your readers will find some value.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike, I finally just posted some analysis on the Local Listing Ad data that I found here in San Diego.  <a href="http://holmesonlocal.wordpress.com/">http://holmesonlocal.wordpress.com/</a> Hoping you and your readers will find some value.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Local Listing Ads End. Analysis for San Diego Categories &#171; Holmes on Local</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-diego/comment-page-1/#comment-447362</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Listing Ads End. Analysis for San Diego Categories &#171; Holmes on Local</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Test that was running in San Diego and San Francisco.  Mike Blumenthal posted this yesterday (http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-...) and I noticed it that same day when I was trying to start a new ad for a client.  I was working [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Test that was running in San Diego and San Francisco.  Mike Blumenthal posted this yesterday (<a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-">http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/12/03/google-ending-local-listing-ad-test-in-san-francisco-and-san-</a>&#8230;) and I noticed it that same day when I was trying to start a new ad for a client.  I was working [...]</p>
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