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	<title>Comments on: Google Maps and PO Boxes &#8211; When can they be used?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-520913</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PO Boxes should never be used]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PO Boxes should never be used</p>
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		<title>By: Bob (the Van Man)</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-520910</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob (the Van Man)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Mike

Any idea on the latest re.. PO Boxes?

Allowed..? or detrimental to placing/ranking in local listings?

I&#039;ve had one for 8 years (for perfectly legitimate practical reasons/convenience etc), but have recently plumeted in the listings, and wondering if the algo has been tweaked re listings with po boxes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike</p>
<p>Any idea on the latest re.. PO Boxes?</p>
<p>Allowed..? or detrimental to placing/ranking in local listings?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had one for 8 years (for perfectly legitimate practical reasons/convenience etc), but have recently plumeted in the listings, and wondering if the algo has been tweaked re listings with po boxes</p>
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		<title>By: Service Area in Google Maps now a reality? : Local Search Optimization &#8211; Martijn Beijk</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-473109</link>
		<dc:creator>Service Area in Google Maps now a reality? : Local Search Optimization &#8211; Martijn Beijk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] service area&#8217;s and workers from home features appear to be a reality after they have been announced back in november 2009 when PO boxes were no longer a legit way to verify your business. Ofcourse [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] service area&#8217;s and workers from home features appear to be a reality after they have been announced back in november 2009 when PO boxes were no longer a legit way to verify your business. Ofcourse [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stever</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-443094</link>
		<dc:creator>Stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@colorful That&#039;s too broad a statement to really mean anything. There certainly are &quot;serious&quot; business that use PO Boxes.

I&#039;m building a website for a client that operates a &lt;a href=&quot;http://grizzlylodge.ca/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;remote wilderness lodge primarily for backcountry snowmobiling deep in the mountains&lt;/a&gt;. The lodge is located far far far outside anywhere that a postal worker will ever go to deliver mail. It&#039;s located on public forest land (long term tourism/recreation lease from government) and has no physical address associated with it. It is for all intents and purposes in the middle of nowhere (once you leave the pavement it&#039;s another 30 miles of dirt logging roads). 

The nearest town is very small, population 3000, and a PO Box in that town is their ONLY option. There are no virtual office or UPS services available in an area like that and even if there was they would be located 50 miles from the actual location of the lodge.

So does that mean they are not a serious business? They most certainly are.

This exact example may be a mute point as Google Maps/Local searching is not really a typical traffic source for such a business, so PO Box or not, or getting into Google Maps based on an address or not has no real bearing on them. But I would certainly argue that there are legit cases for a serious business to use a PO Box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@colorful That&#8217;s too broad a statement to really mean anything. There certainly are &#8220;serious&#8221; business that use PO Boxes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m building a website for a client that operates a <a href="http://grizzlylodge.ca/">remote wilderness lodge primarily for backcountry snowmobiling deep in the mountains</a>. The lodge is located far far far outside anywhere that a postal worker will ever go to deliver mail. It&#8217;s located on public forest land (long term tourism/recreation lease from government) and has no physical address associated with it. It is for all intents and purposes in the middle of nowhere (once you leave the pavement it&#8217;s another 30 miles of dirt logging roads). </p>
<p>The nearest town is very small, population 3000, and a PO Box in that town is their ONLY option. There are no virtual office or UPS services available in an area like that and even if there was they would be located 50 miles from the actual location of the lodge.</p>
<p>So does that mean they are not a serious business? They most certainly are.</p>
<p>This exact example may be a mute point as Google Maps/Local searching is not really a typical traffic source for such a business, so PO Box or not, or getting into Google Maps based on an address or not has no real bearing on them. But I would certainly argue that there are legit cases for a serious business to use a PO Box.</p>
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		<title>By: colorful</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-443082</link>
		<dc:creator>colorful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Google should promote serious businesses. How serious can be a business with an PO Box address?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Google should promote serious businesses. How serious can be a business with an PO Box address?</p>
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		<title>By: Local Business Listings Online – Using P.O. Boxes &#171; AmIVisible Research Center</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-442516</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Business Listings Online – Using P.O. Boxes &#171; AmIVisible Research Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] no longer considered &#8220;physical addresses&#8221; for businesses.  See Mike Blumenthal&#8217;s Google Maps and PO Boxes - When can they be used? November 4 post: The poor man&#8217;s virtual office, the PO Box, has been singled out in the new [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no longer considered &#8220;physical addresses&#8221; for businesses.  See Mike Blumenthal&#8217;s Google Maps and PO Boxes &#8211; When can they be used? November 4 post: The poor man&#8217;s virtual office, the PO Box, has been singled out in the new [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stever</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-442122</link>
		<dc:creator>Stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Samantha, yes, technically the UPS Mailboxes are PO Boxes, of sorts. But so are virtual offices, when you just get the bare bones service. It&#039;s basically a mail forwarding service. Many virtual office companies provide  secretary services, use of conference rooms, virtual phone numbers, etc., but often are options within their more expensive packages. So when you just use their most basic service it&#039;s really no different than using a UPS address.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Samantha, yes, technically the UPS Mailboxes are PO Boxes, of sorts. But so are virtual offices, when you just get the bare bones service. It&#8217;s basically a mail forwarding service. Many virtual office companies provide  secretary services, use of conference rooms, virtual phone numbers, etc., but often are options within their more expensive packages. So when you just use their most basic service it&#8217;s really no different than using a UPS address.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-442065</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Stever UPS boxes are still considered mailboxes - Same as a post office box, just run by a private company.  And google should treat them as such.  They are in no way a physical location.  They are a mailing address - but not a location.  No one works out of a box in a Post office or UPS store.

I Agree with google - PO boxes shouldn&#039;t serve as your location.  Peple know you aren&#039;t working out of a box in a mailbox facility.  It keeps their listings legit.

I also don&#039;t understand why people are still using their home addresses.  There are alot of crazy&#039;s out there.  Get a virtual office to protect your private life.  Plus they usually help bolster your business image.

The best solution for this is a virtual office service that provides you with a physical office address (not a mailbox).  You can find these services easily for less than $1 a day.  Just slightly more than a PO box - but provides your business with a physical presence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stever UPS boxes are still considered mailboxes &#8211; Same as a post office box, just run by a private company.  And google should treat them as such.  They are in no way a physical location.  They are a mailing address &#8211; but not a location.  No one works out of a box in a Post office or UPS store.</p>
<p>I Agree with google &#8211; PO boxes shouldn&#8217;t serve as your location.  Peple know you aren&#8217;t working out of a box in a mailbox facility.  It keeps their listings legit.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t understand why people are still using their home addresses.  There are alot of crazy&#8217;s out there.  Get a virtual office to protect your private life.  Plus they usually help bolster your business image.</p>
<p>The best solution for this is a virtual office service that provides you with a physical office address (not a mailbox).  You can find these services easily for less than $1 a day.  Just slightly more than a PO box &#8211; but provides your business with a physical presence.</p>
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		<title>By: Stever</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-439840</link>
		<dc:creator>Stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Miriam, I don&#039;t really think this is Google&#039;s master plan to revive the floundering real estate market, just being snarky during a week of hating on the big G for a number of things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Miriam, I don&#8217;t really think this is Google&#8217;s master plan to revive the floundering real estate market, just being snarky during a week of hating on the big G for a number of things.</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/google-maps-and-po-boxes-when-can-they-be-used/comment-page-1/#comment-439731</link>
		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh heh, Steve. I hadn&#039;t thought of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh heh, Steve. I hadn&#8217;t thought of that.</p>
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