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	<title>Comments on: Federal Bust of Dependable Locksmith in Florida Strikes at Heart of National Locksmith Scams</title>
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		<title>By: Tania J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tania J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This scam is alive and well--I just fell victim. Was locked out of my house in San Diego, picked a listing from Googling &quot;San Diego Locksmith,&quot; was quoted $39 over the phone, and was charged $204 for the service. I did a little digging and found that almost the entire first page of Google results from a search for San Diego Locksmiths leads to this fraudulent company: different company names, web addresses, phone numbers, and mailing addresses, but the exact same company nonetheless. Did locksmith searches in other major cities and found the same company operating with the same tricks: different names and web addresses, but identical content in the pages. This is a HUGE scam, people, and it&#039;s as alive now as it was years ago. Who are these people? This must lead back to one major overseas corporation, raking in billions in this fraud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This scam is alive and well&#8211;I just fell victim. Was locked out of my house in San Diego, picked a listing from Googling &#8220;San Diego Locksmith,&#8221; was quoted $39 over the phone, and was charged $204 for the service. I did a little digging and found that almost the entire first page of Google results from a search for San Diego Locksmiths leads to this fraudulent company: different company names, web addresses, phone numbers, and mailing addresses, but the exact same company nonetheless. Did locksmith searches in other major cities and found the same company operating with the same tricks: different names and web addresses, but identical content in the pages. This is a HUGE scam, people, and it&#8217;s as alive now as it was years ago. Who are these people? This must lead back to one major overseas corporation, raking in billions in this fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Dependable Locksmith Back in The Business of Deceit &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dependable Locksmith Back in The Business of Deceit &#124; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of Deceit Category: Google Places (Maps &amp; Local) &#8211; Mike &#8211; 5:00 pm   I was surprised to learn that Dependable Locksmith, raided in late 2009 by the Feds and sued by the attorney general in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Deceit Category: Google Places (Maps &amp; Local) &ndash; Mike &ndash; 5:00 pm   I was surprised to learn that Dependable Locksmith, raided in late 2009 by the Feds and sued by the attorney general in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dependable Locks is still in business.  Our local TV station (WFTV) just did a scam report on them.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/action-9-exposes-national-locksmith-network/nFWNL/#comments]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dependable Locks is still in business.  Our local TV station (WFTV) just did a scam report on them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wftv.com/news/news/action-9-exposes-national-locksmith-network/nFWNL/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.wftv.com/news/news/action-9-exposes-national-locksmith-network/nFWNL/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[forgot to add  i  can  let people know what to look for  when dealing with a   true  locksmith    

They will ask for  proof  of  ownership  so  do not  be  alarmed if this happens  a  true  locksmith will ask  for this  credentials  it  covers the owner of the  home or   vehicle  and it also covers the  locksmith    


also   ask  for  a  price  a  true locksmith  will  say  so much for  making  a  key   so much for labor  and  so much for  a    service call   

before they even  go on the road  

thats what i  did  for many years  someone ask me how much do i charge for  a  lost key for  a  auto  i  told the  customer depends on the year  and make of the vehicle   most the times i   told  them  anywhere  between   75.00  to   125.00  for  a  key make  it would not go over the   125.00    sometimes i  spent  hours  on  doing  a key  by  the hard way  taking the  lock  apart  cause no code was  found on the  vehicle   

but  me being honest  i  did not charge  any  extra   when i set  a  price i  stuck to it  even if it did  take me longer    

ALOA  is  a  great  place for  locksmiths   to be members of   i  plan on joining them  when and if  i  ever  redo  this  trade again   it did have  the  stress   but  i  loved  doing it   but it did  keep me up  half the night  

most of my work  was  getting  police calls  needing  assistance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forgot to add  i  can  let people know what to look for  when dealing with a   true  locksmith    </p>
<p>They will ask for  proof  of  ownership  so  do not  be  alarmed if this happens  a  true  locksmith will ask  for this  credentials  it  covers the owner of the  home or   vehicle  and it also covers the  locksmith    </p>
<p>also   ask  for  a  price  a  true locksmith  will  say  so much for  making  a  key   so much for labor  and  so much for  a    service call   </p>
<p>before they even  go on the road  </p>
<p>thats what i  did  for many years  someone ask me how much do i charge for  a  lost key for  a  auto  i  told the  customer depends on the year  and make of the vehicle   most the times i   told  them  anywhere  between   75.00  to   125.00  for  a  key make  it would not go over the   125.00    sometimes i  spent  hours  on  doing  a key  by  the hard way  taking the  lock  apart  cause no code was  found on the  vehicle   </p>
<p>but  me being honest  i  did not charge  any  extra   when i set  a  price i  stuck to it  even if it did  take me longer    </p>
<p>ALOA  is  a  great  place for  locksmiths   to be members of   i  plan on joining them  when and if  i  ever  redo  this  trade again   it did have  the  stress   but  i  loved  doing it   but it did  keep me up  half the night  </p>
<p>most of my work  was  getting  police calls  needing  assistance</p>
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		<title>By: calvin</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/11/05/federal-bust-of-dependable-locksmith-in-florida-strikes-at-heart-of-locksmith-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-531280</link>
		<dc:creator>calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just  sharing with everyone  i  use to be  a  locksmith had my own company  since   march of   1994   had many  nice times  and had some bad days to   one time i did  a  job for  a customer who told me they called this  company in the phone book and they had a  attitude  towards them  well  i  told the customer  they do not have to  wait on them  so i unlocked her  car door  for  $ 45.00   which  took me less  than a  minute to open  i  told her to get the name of the company  that she called  cause i never heard of the company  came out  i think it was the  dependable  company   they had  a small  ad  in the phone book   

i  did  some  checking on things  so i  called the  #  myself  and  acted like i was  locked  out  yep  they love to swindle  people   but  i was good at  getting the info i needed from them  at the time  i not  practicing  locksmith  service  at this time  due to  bankruptcy   and my  license ran out  but  my mom  on  her  death bed  and  when the time comes  im  moving  to  a  new state  and  re open  or  work for  another locksmith   at  night  and  my  small engine shop in the day  

nice  talking to you all 

calvin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just  sharing with everyone  i  use to be  a  locksmith had my own company  since   march of   1994   had many  nice times  and had some bad days to   one time i did  a  job for  a customer who told me they called this  company in the phone book and they had a  attitude  towards them  well  i  told the customer  they do not have to  wait on them  so i unlocked her  car door  for  $ 45.00   which  took me less  than a  minute to open  i  told her to get the name of the company  that she called  cause i never heard of the company  came out  i think it was the  dependable  company   they had  a small  ad  in the phone book   </p>
<p>i  did  some  checking on things  so i  called the  #  myself  and  acted like i was  locked  out  yep  they love to swindle  people   but  i was good at  getting the info i needed from them  at the time  i not  practicing  locksmith  service  at this time  due to  bankruptcy   and my  license ran out  but  my mom  on  her  death bed  and  when the time comes  im  moving  to  a  new state  and  re open  or  work for  another locksmith   at  night  and  my  small engine shop in the day  </p>
<p>nice  talking to you all </p>
<p>calvin</p>
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		<title>By: guesswho</title>
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		<dc:creator>guesswho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug-
&quot;to be initiated by the National Locksmith&#039;s Association&quot;??  The NLA is a defunct group that is owned 100% by the National Publishing Group.  They have no  meetings, no agendas, and no chance of helping us with this one.  They have ads in the back of thier mags advertising help wanted ads for groups like these.  

ALOA is the only true (inter)national association.

There are enough laws for DAs to throw at these guys without lawsuits or licensing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug-<br />
&#8220;to be initiated by the National Locksmith&#8217;s Association&#8221;??  The NLA is a defunct group that is owned 100% by the National Publishing Group.  They have no  meetings, no agendas, and no chance of helping us with this one.  They have ads in the back of thier mags advertising help wanted ads for groups like these.  </p>
<p>ALOA is the only true (inter)national association.</p>
<p>There are enough laws for DAs to throw at these guys without lawsuits or licensing.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[usa locksmith of HackenSack New Jersey is the same Israeli group
also known as Prestige Business Solutions, P.O. Box 1140 Hackensack NJ 07602, Phone 800-721-5131, Fax 866-766-9677.
They use Level III communications supplied phone numbers
  Most Seattle WA locksmiths are out of business, the Dex yellow pages has 2000 fake locksmith listings, the Google fraud is huge $29.Locksmith listings everywhere. 
 We need a nationwide Google classaction lawsuit, to be started by the National locksmith association.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>usa locksmith of HackenSack New Jersey is the same Israeli group<br />
also known as Prestige Business Solutions, P.O. Box 1140 Hackensack NJ 07602, Phone 800-721-5131, Fax 866-766-9677.<br />
They use Level III communications supplied phone numbers<br />
  Most Seattle WA locksmiths are out of business, the Dex yellow pages has 2000 fake locksmith listings, the Google fraud is huge $29.Locksmith listings everywhere.<br />
 We need a nationwide Google classaction lawsuit, to be started by the National locksmith association.</p>
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		<title>By: LP</title>
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		<dc:creator>LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On April 7, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legalnewsline.com/news/226535-gansler-takes-on-locksmith&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maryland Attorney General Douglas Gansler&#039;s Consumer Protection Division issued a cease and desist order against Around the Clock Locksmith over fees charged for services&lt;/a&gt;
NEWS STORY BY: BY NICK REES

April 7, 2010

BALTIMORE (Legal Newsline) - Maryland Attorney General Douglas Gansler&#039;s Consumer Protection Division has issued a cease and desist order against a Maryland locksmith over fees charged for his services.

ATCL-MD, Inc., known as Around the Clock Locksmith, and Joseph M. Horton, its owner, were alleged to have charged more than $4,300 to replace a lock and deadbolt and fees as high as $1,400 to respond to a consumer&#039;s request for locksmith services.

In its statement of charges, the division alleges that Around the Clock refuses to give an estimate of its fees to consumers or only provides extremely low estimates. When customers balked at paying the company&#039;s undisclosed fees, their credit cards were then allegedly charged by the company without prior authorization.

&quot;You can&#039;t provide a low estimate to get your foot in the door and then charge multiples of that estimate to perform the service,&quot; Gansler said. &quot;The Order requires the company to provide realistic estimates and to stick by them.&quot;

The Division also alleges that Around the Clock and Horton falsely used a competitor&#039;s name to steal the competitor&#039;s customers and misrepresented that the company was a member in good standing with the Better Business Bureau.

Around the Clock and Horton were ordered by the Consumer Protection Division to immediately cease and desist from further engaging in unfair or deceptive trade practices. Restitution, penalties and costs will be determined following a June hearing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On April 7, <a href="http://www.legalnewsline.com/news/226535-gansler-takes-on-locksmith" rel="nofollow">Maryland Attorney General Douglas Gansler&#8217;s Consumer Protection Division issued a cease and desist order against Around the Clock Locksmith over fees charged for services</a><br />
NEWS STORY BY: BY NICK REES</p>
<p>April 7, 2010</p>
<p>BALTIMORE (Legal Newsline) &#8211; Maryland Attorney General Douglas Gansler&#8217;s Consumer Protection Division has issued a cease and desist order against a Maryland locksmith over fees charged for his services.</p>
<p>ATCL-MD, Inc., known as Around the Clock Locksmith, and Joseph M. Horton, its owner, were alleged to have charged more than $4,300 to replace a lock and deadbolt and fees as high as $1,400 to respond to a consumer&#8217;s request for locksmith services.</p>
<p>In its statement of charges, the division alleges that Around the Clock refuses to give an estimate of its fees to consumers or only provides extremely low estimates. When customers balked at paying the company&#8217;s undisclosed fees, their credit cards were then allegedly charged by the company without prior authorization.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t provide a low estimate to get your foot in the door and then charge multiples of that estimate to perform the service,&#8221; Gansler said. &#8220;The Order requires the company to provide realistic estimates and to stick by them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Division also alleges that Around the Clock and Horton falsely used a competitor&#8217;s name to steal the competitor&#8217;s customers and misrepresented that the company was a member in good standing with the Better Business Bureau.</p>
<p>Around the Clock and Horton were ordered by the Consumer Protection Division to immediately cease and desist from further engaging in unfair or deceptive trade practices. Restitution, penalties and costs will be determined following a June hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In regards to Dependable still being in business. Based on information and belief they still are. Some of these phonys and I believe Dependable also which uses tons of names to hide behind are just shell corporations that are set up to hide behind. Dependable was once Priceline and when authoritys got to close It suddenly became Dependable aka all the other names that are out there. They claimed they purchased the assets of Priceline even though they were using all the Priceline Phonelines with phony addresses attached and they still acted if they had done nothing wrong. I believe they are still in business. I actually think that David Peer and the other ones busted are only front men for someone much bigger from Israel. One of the articles mentioned that money was being sent to a real estate in Israel. Just to let everyone here know I was sued by David Peer for 1,000,000.00 basically for being a whisle blower and exposing this phony locksmith scam early in the game. This lawsuit was a pack of lies and twisted truth. The federal Judge has dismissed me from the lawsuit But a few state of Illinois officials are still involved. I dont expect the lawsuit to win in any way but everyone is going thru hell defending themselves. One thing Dependable did was to scare of state officials from persuing them in fear of they might get sued. I personaly hope David Peer rots in prison. The last I heard he was extradited from florida to Missouri. This is by far not the end of the problem. The people at the top need to be dealt with. Just like I believe they are, Organized Crime. It is hard to get to the top of the ladder when you deal with organized crime. There are layers of protection and no one talks. They need to follow the money.

One thing I believe might quell this problems is to hold all advertisors responsible. Yes, Charge them with aiding and abedding. It can be done especially in the states that are licensed. The licensed states would only have to prove that they were enabling unlicensed individuals and companys break the law, and in unlicensed states it would be a little harderer because one would have to prove much more. I am one that is not a big fan of licensing but I do recognize it as a tool for enforcement. If you ever noticed all of the phonys advertise they are licensed when truly they are not. Even where licensing is not required they say they are licensed.

Anyway the Bust of these Few what I consider total sleaze bags is really nothind as I believe they are only lower level pawns. The money being made is mind boggling. I dont have an exact figure but I believe it is probably hundreds of millions by now nationwide and collectively.

Google needs to address this problem as they are taking money from these types of companys also. Google run-local locksmith the 29.00 service locksmith that does not charge 29.00 locksmith service but much more. They will not give an exact quote and suprise the victim/consummer of the real charge many times after they do an opening. In Northern Illinois they are the top google sponsored ad in every community. Is Google responsible? I say yes. Will they Listen? I think a class action lawsuit will do the trick. I know that this is already being discussed between some attorneys who are licking their chops.

This is far from over and like a forest fire every ember of this problem needs to be doused. To the ones out there who are actively fighting this please keep up the good work.

Mike Bronzell
Keyman424@aol.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to Dependable still being in business. Based on information and belief they still are. Some of these phonys and I believe Dependable also which uses tons of names to hide behind are just shell corporations that are set up to hide behind. Dependable was once Priceline and when authoritys got to close It suddenly became Dependable aka all the other names that are out there. They claimed they purchased the assets of Priceline even though they were using all the Priceline Phonelines with phony addresses attached and they still acted if they had done nothing wrong. I believe they are still in business. I actually think that David Peer and the other ones busted are only front men for someone much bigger from Israel. One of the articles mentioned that money was being sent to a real estate in Israel. Just to let everyone here know I was sued by David Peer for 1,000,000.00 basically for being a whisle blower and exposing this phony locksmith scam early in the game. This lawsuit was a pack of lies and twisted truth. The federal Judge has dismissed me from the lawsuit But a few state of Illinois officials are still involved. I dont expect the lawsuit to win in any way but everyone is going thru hell defending themselves. One thing Dependable did was to scare of state officials from persuing them in fear of they might get sued. I personaly hope David Peer rots in prison. The last I heard he was extradited from florida to Missouri. This is by far not the end of the problem. The people at the top need to be dealt with. Just like I believe they are, Organized Crime. It is hard to get to the top of the ladder when you deal with organized crime. There are layers of protection and no one talks. They need to follow the money.</p>
<p>One thing I believe might quell this problems is to hold all advertisors responsible. Yes, Charge them with aiding and abedding. It can be done especially in the states that are licensed. The licensed states would only have to prove that they were enabling unlicensed individuals and companys break the law, and in unlicensed states it would be a little harderer because one would have to prove much more. I am one that is not a big fan of licensing but I do recognize it as a tool for enforcement. If you ever noticed all of the phonys advertise they are licensed when truly they are not. Even where licensing is not required they say they are licensed.</p>
<p>Anyway the Bust of these Few what I consider total sleaze bags is really nothind as I believe they are only lower level pawns. The money being made is mind boggling. I dont have an exact figure but I believe it is probably hundreds of millions by now nationwide and collectively.</p>
<p>Google needs to address this problem as they are taking money from these types of companys also. Google run-local locksmith the 29.00 service locksmith that does not charge 29.00 locksmith service but much more. They will not give an exact quote and suprise the victim/consummer of the real charge many times after they do an opening. In Northern Illinois they are the top google sponsored ad in every community. Is Google responsible? I say yes. Will they Listen? I think a class action lawsuit will do the trick. I know that this is already being discussed between some attorneys who are licking their chops.</p>
<p>This is far from over and like a forest fire every ember of this problem needs to be doused. To the ones out there who are actively fighting this please keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Mike Bronzell<br />
<a href="mailto:Keyman424@aol.com">Keyman424@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elle Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elle Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is sad is that we lose more and more freedom as the government gains and takes more of that freedom from us. The other side of the coin is that people behaving like this leaves no room for doubt as to why they take it away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is sad is that we lose more and more freedom as the government gains and takes more of that freedom from us. The other side of the coin is that people behaving like this leaves no room for doubt as to why they take it away.</p>
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