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	<title>Comments on: Google Maps: Category Mapspam</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/06/10/google-maps-category-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-397234</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mark

I strongly agree that open categories make lots of sense and that there is a certain ambiguity in the search &quot;clean hotel&quot;. Clearly the world is a varied place and being able to categorize correctly and appropriately is a good thing.

That being said even Google, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/28/google-maps-guidelines-what-has-changed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;their new guidelines&lt;/a&gt;, felt that the type of behavior noted above was a violation of appropriate listing practices and banned the infinite number of categories in one field.

They noted: &lt;em&gt; When entering categories, use only those that directly describe your business. Do not submit related categories that do not define your business. For example, a taxi company might properly categorize itself as &quot;Airport Transportation&quot;, but it would be inaccurate to also use the category “Airport”. Also, please use each category field to enter a single category. Do not list multiple categories or keywords in one field.&lt;/em&gt; 

Clearly this violates those guidelines. Also it would not be that difficult for them to error check the fields to be sure that it isn&#039;t happening or to scan through the index to flag and review those that look a tad suspicious.

While it is important to have flexibility, without guidelines and some structure things rapidly head downhill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark</p>
<p>I strongly agree that open categories make lots of sense and that there is a certain ambiguity in the search &#8220;clean hotel&#8221;. Clearly the world is a varied place and being able to categorize correctly and appropriately is a good thing.</p>
<p>That being said even Google, <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/28/google-maps-guidelines-what-has-changed/">their new guidelines</a>, felt that the type of behavior noted above was a violation of appropriate listing practices and banned the infinite number of categories in one field.</p>
<p>They noted: <em> When entering categories, use only those that directly describe your business. Do not submit related categories that do not define your business. For example, a taxi company might properly categorize itself as &#8220;Airport Transportation&#8221;, but it would be inaccurate to also use the category “Airport”. Also, please use each category field to enter a single category. Do not list multiple categories or keywords in one field.</em> </p>
<p>Clearly this violates those guidelines. Also it would not be that difficult for them to error check the fields to be sure that it isn&#8217;t happening or to scan through the index to flag and review those that look a tad suspicious.</p>
<p>While it is important to have flexibility, without guidelines and some structure things rapidly head downhill.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Oliver</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/06/10/google-maps-category-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-397030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that google maps are evolving so fast that it has been a gift for Google to leave this space open to learn what is needed. I really appreciate it. Spam may be a result, but it&#039;s also making results better.  Yes, if you search for a clean Hotel it makes sense that you might get hotel cleaners.

In accommodation you could say there are preset catagories as these are the ones used in suggestions to refine a poorly organized search. The open catagories we create are good for fringe groupings that just don&#039;t fit elsewhere.

Also, this is a worldwide tool.  People in other countries don&#039;t use terms like Lodging, which was something that Google seemed to push at an earlier stage.  Vacation Rentals in America could be Holiday Letting in Australia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that google maps are evolving so fast that it has been a gift for Google to leave this space open to learn what is needed. I really appreciate it. Spam may be a result, but it&#8217;s also making results better.  Yes, if you search for a clean Hotel it makes sense that you might get hotel cleaners.</p>
<p>In accommodation you could say there are preset catagories as these are the ones used in suggestions to refine a poorly organized search. The open catagories we create are good for fringe groupings that just don&#8217;t fit elsewhere.</p>
<p>Also, this is a worldwide tool.  People in other countries don&#8217;t use terms like Lodging, which was something that Google seemed to push at an earlier stage.  Vacation Rentals in America could be Holiday Letting in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/06/10/google-maps-category-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-395537</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Miriam

Why Thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Miriam</p>
<p>Why Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/06/10/google-maps-category-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-395535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes some compromise that tightens it up some but still allows reasonable long tail categories would make lots of sense. I am not sure I would like fixed categories in general but there is a lot of room between now and there thats for sure]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes some compromise that tightens it up some but still allows reasonable long tail categories would make lots of sense. I am not sure I would like fixed categories in general but there is a lot of room between now and there thats for sure</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at those business titles in the E and G positions! They are so bad they are almost funny.

It&#039;s kind of a weird example, because you can almost follow the thinking of a carpet cleaner offering to &#039;clean hotel&#039;. Obviously, this is spam, but it has a weird kind of logic to it.

You sure to turn up the most amazing spam, Mike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at those business titles in the E and G positions! They are so bad they are almost funny.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of a weird example, because you can almost follow the thinking of a carpet cleaner offering to &#8216;clean hotel&#8217;. Obviously, this is spam, but it has a weird kind of logic to it.</p>
<p>You sure to turn up the most amazing spam, Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd - LeadConnect</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd - LeadConnect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I love the ability to create custom categories in the end this is just not going to work. 

Google needs to either go back to using only preset categories. Or have 4 preset categories and one category that you can customize. Either way the custom categories field needs to have a 50 character limit or something. 

I know there will always going to be a small number of of businesses that will have a hard time finding a preset category related to them... but Google shouldn&#039;t make it this easy for spammers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I love the ability to create custom categories in the end this is just not going to work. </p>
<p>Google needs to either go back to using only preset categories. Or have 4 preset categories and one category that you can customize. Either way the custom categories field needs to have a 50 character limit or something. </p>
<p>I know there will always going to be a small number of of businesses that will have a hard time finding a preset category related to them&#8230; but Google shouldn&#8217;t make it this easy for spammers.</p>
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