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	<title>Comments on: Google Maps: Local Business Center Online &#8211; Merging Problem Improved?</title>
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		<title>By: aimClear&#8217;s 2009 Daily Training Link Library &#187; aimClear Search Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/18/google-maps-local-business-center-online-merging-problem-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-452833</link>
		<dc:creator>aimClear&#8217;s 2009 Daily Training Link Library &#187; aimClear Search Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Maps: Local Business Center Online &#8211; Merging Problem Improved?, Mike Blumenthal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/18/google-maps-local-business-center-online-merging-problem-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-408084</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deleting and recreating WILL NOT correct the problem and may make it worse. All current, past and future information that is in a cluster seems to be kept forever.

Google doesn&#039;t directly divulge the information about there relationship with data providers so most of it is surmised. Primary: InfoUsa, Axciom, Localeze as probably others. Secondary:SuperPage, InsiderPages, and others.

You should probably go back and read thru past postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deleting and recreating WILL NOT correct the problem and may make it worse. All current, past and future information that is in a cluster seems to be kept forever.</p>
<p>Google doesn&#8217;t directly divulge the information about there relationship with data providers so most of it is surmised. Primary: InfoUsa, Axciom, Localeze as probably others. Secondary:SuperPage, InsiderPages, and others.</p>
<p>You should probably go back and read thru past postings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha.

Who are the primary and secondary data suppliers and is it possible to correct their info and geocoding?

Also, I&#039;ve come to believe that deleting and re-creating these listings will not correct the problem. Is that the general consensus?

Again, thank you so much for your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha.</p>
<p>Who are the primary and secondary data suppliers and is it possible to correct their info and geocoding?</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve come to believe that deleting and re-creating these listings will not correct the problem. Is that the general consensus?</p>
<p>Again, thank you so much for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the upstream ecosystem I am referring to all of the data collection points that eventually end up providing data to the cluster; the primary data suppliers , their data suppliers, the phone companies, the business records etc etc etc

There is also the possibility that one of the primary data suppliers or a trusted secondary supplier has conflated the two listings or that they are improperly geocoded thus leading to Google&#039;s confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the upstream ecosystem I am referring to all of the data collection points that eventually end up providing data to the cluster; the primary data suppliers , their data suppliers, the phone companies, the business records etc etc etc</p>
<p>There is also the possibility that one of the primary data suppliers or a trusted secondary supplier has conflated the two listings or that they are improperly geocoded thus leading to Google&#8217;s confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/18/google-maps-local-business-center-online-merging-problem-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-408078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the suggestions, Mike! Greatly appreciated.

Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what do you mean by &quot;seeding the upstream ecosystem?&quot; Does that refer to info supplied by me &amp; the business owner or from 3rd parties on external sites, etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the suggestions, Mike! Greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what do you mean by &#8220;seeding the upstream ecosystem?&#8221; Does that refer to info supplied by me &amp; the business owner or from 3rd parties on external sites, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/18/google-maps-local-business-center-online-merging-problem-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-408077</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Corey

If you make both listings excactly the same they will over time merge and provide the unified listing with all of its appropriate reivews and web references. See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/08/google-maps-how-to-remove-duplicate-records-in-the-local-business-center/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to remove duplicate records&lt;/a&gt;.

@Jay
Google&#039;s cluster technology leads to merging based on location &amp; similar words. For whatever reason the cluster thinks that both listings are one and the same. This could be due to common ownership, mixed upstream data or other signals. 

I would build the strength of each listing and make them unique by seeding the upstream ecosystem and then post in the forum asking for assistance.
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Corey</p>
<p>If you make both listings excactly the same they will over time merge and provide the unified listing with all of its appropriate reivews and web references. See: <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/08/google-maps-how-to-remove-duplicate-records-in-the-local-business-center/">How to remove duplicate records</a>.</p>
<p>@Jay<br />
Google&#8217;s cluster technology leads to merging based on location &#038; similar words. For whatever reason the cluster thinks that both listings are one and the same. This could be due to common ownership, mixed upstream data or other signals. </p>
<p>I would build the strength of each listing and make them unique by seeding the upstream ecosystem and then post in the forum asking for assistance.<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My head is about to explode. I am working with a business owner of two separate consignment stores (one adult &amp; one children within the same town) to clean up their web presence. When I began, some of the information for the 2 listings were combined (ie. website, phone #). I thought this would be an easy fix... 

I claimed both listings and edited the information accordingly so that each listing reflected the correct information. I also added additional info to the listings per request of the business owner (photos, hours, etc.). 

While all of the information is correct in my LBC listings, the information is still all jumbled on Google Maps. I thought perhaps it may take some time to update and straighten out, however all of my new information is present and updated. Only now all the new info is merged as well (photos appear for both listings, separate hours appear for both listings).

*Please, can anyone help?*

Here are the two listings:

CORRECT INFO:
Just Kidding
25 Cottrell St.
Mystic, CT 06355
860-536-4799
www.justkiddingmystic.com
Google listing:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;sll=41.482822,-72.525563&amp;view=text&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;q=just+kidding+mystic&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sspn=0.149324,0.674623&amp;latlng=10423446219106559720&amp;ei=T5NkSrPFOIe-NovV-OAL&amp;sig2=52jV_Uvfdv170fppEtD8Pg&amp;cd=1

CORRECT INFO:
Pennywise
22 Greenmanville Ave.
Mystic, CT 06355
860-572-9232
www.pennywisemystic.com
Google listing:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;sll=41.482822,-72.525563&amp;view=text&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;q=pennywise+mystic&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sspn=0.149324,0.674623&amp;latlng=10423446219106559720&amp;ei=CpdkSoTJI5fAM9_wrfML&amp;sig2=zgCEG550Jw83TkmE7sWxWQ&amp;cd=1

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My head is about to explode. I am working with a business owner of two separate consignment stores (one adult &amp; one children within the same town) to clean up their web presence. When I began, some of the information for the 2 listings were combined (ie. website, phone #). I thought this would be an easy fix&#8230; </p>
<p>I claimed both listings and edited the information accordingly so that each listing reflected the correct information. I also added additional info to the listings per request of the business owner (photos, hours, etc.). </p>
<p>While all of the information is correct in my LBC listings, the information is still all jumbled on Google Maps. I thought perhaps it may take some time to update and straighten out, however all of my new information is present and updated. Only now all the new info is merged as well (photos appear for both listings, separate hours appear for both listings).</p>
<p>*Please, can anyone help?*</p>
<p>Here are the two listings:</p>
<p>CORRECT INFO:<br />
Just Kidding<br />
25 Cottrell St.<br />
Mystic, CT 06355<br />
860-536-4799<br />
<a href="http://www.justkiddingmystic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.justkiddingmystic.com</a><br />
Google listing:<br />
<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;sll=41.482822,-72.525563&amp;view=text&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;q=just+kidding+mystic&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sspn=0.149324,0.674623&amp;latlng=10423446219106559720&amp;ei=T5NkSrPFOIe-NovV-OAL&amp;sig2=52jV_Uvfdv170fppEtD8Pg&amp;cd=1" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;sll=41.482822,-72.525563&amp;view=text&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;q=just+kidding+mystic&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sspn=0.149324,0.674623&amp;latlng=10423446219106559720&amp;ei=T5NkSrPFOIe-NovV-OAL&amp;sig2=52jV_Uvfdv170fppEtD8Pg&amp;cd=1</a></p>
<p>CORRECT INFO:<br />
Pennywise<br />
22 Greenmanville Ave.<br />
Mystic, CT 06355<br />
860-572-9232<br />
<a href="http://www.pennywisemystic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pennywisemystic.com</a><br />
Google listing:<br />
<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;sll=41.482822,-72.525563&amp;view=text&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;q=pennywise+mystic&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sspn=0.149324,0.674623&amp;latlng=10423446219106559720&amp;ei=CpdkSoTJI5fAM9_wrfML&amp;sig2=zgCEG550Jw83TkmE7sWxWQ&amp;cd=1" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;sll=41.482822,-72.525563&amp;view=text&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;q=pennywise+mystic&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sspn=0.149324,0.674623&amp;latlng=10423446219106559720&amp;ei=CpdkSoTJI5fAM9_wrfML&amp;sig2=zgCEG550Jw83TkmE7sWxWQ&amp;cd=1</a></p>
<p>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: Corey McMillin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey McMillin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you please let me know whats going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please let me know whats going on?</p>
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		<title>By: Corey McMillin</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/05/18/google-maps-local-business-center-online-merging-problem-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-408009</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey McMillin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The searches where my listing comes up on google map is &quot;everglades fishing charters&quot; and &quot;everglades fishing trip&quot;  if you click on my listing under both these seaches you will get 2 different listings each with 1 different review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The searches where my listing comes up on google map is &#8220;everglades fishing charters&#8221; and &#8220;everglades fishing trip&#8221;  if you click on my listing under both these seaches you will get 2 different listings each with 1 different review.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey McMillin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey McMillin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put a buisiness listing on google and then tried to correct it and somehow created another listing.  I am now waiting for mail verification on the second listing that they say is not being viewed publicly, so I can delete it. I also had 3 reviews of my business on the first listing. Now when I do different searches I get 2 different listings, each containing 2 reviews, and only one of the listings has 17 webpages attached.  How can this be happening and what can I do to get one listing with 3 reviews and have my web pages displayed as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put a buisiness listing on google and then tried to correct it and somehow created another listing.  I am now waiting for mail verification on the second listing that they say is not being viewed publicly, so I can delete it. I also had 3 reviews of my business on the first listing. Now when I do different searches I get 2 different listings, each containing 2 reviews, and only one of the listings has 17 webpages attached.  How can this be happening and what can I do to get one listing with 3 reviews and have my web pages displayed as well?</p>
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