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	<title>Comments on: Google Maps suffers huge infusion of Remote Call Forwarding Mapspam</title>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/03/02/google-maps-suffers-huge-infusion-of-remote-call-forwarding-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-342220</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering if Google will be getting into the RCF business themselves.  This article gives an overview of the Google Voice service soon to be released to the masses.

http://searchengineland.com/google-voice-next-generation-telco-16904</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if Google will be getting into the RCF business themselves.  This article gives an overview of the Google Voice service soon to be released to the masses.</p>
<p><a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-voice-next-generation-telco-16904">http://searchengineland.com/google-voice-next-generation-telco-16904</a></p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/03/02/google-maps-suffers-huge-infusion-of-remote-call-forwarding-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-342158</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Google may be getting into the RCF business themselves with Google Voice: https://www.google.com/voice/about</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Google may be getting into the RCF business themselves with Google Voice: <a href="https://www.google.com/voice/about">https://www.google.com/voice/about</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/03/02/google-maps-suffers-huge-infusion-of-remote-call-forwarding-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-337310</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve

Thanks for stopping by.

As of yet, Google has not done anything about this instance. If I were you, I would repost into the Google Maps Spam thread.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.</p>
<p>As of yet, Google has not done anything about this instance. If I were you, I would repost into the Google Maps Spam thread.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pellham</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/03/02/google-maps-suffers-huge-infusion-of-remote-call-forwarding-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-337301</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pellham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to you and Cathy for bringing additional attention to this issue - I did report the original info I found per your reply in the Google Group.  Hopefully the spam team will look into this further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you and Cathy for bringing additional attention to this issue &#8211; I did report the original info I found per your reply in the Google Group.  Hopefully the spam team will look into this further.</p>
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		<title>By: panzermike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/03/02/google-maps-suffers-huge-infusion-of-remote-call-forwarding-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-336145</link>
		<dc:creator>panzermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

Great work.  I didn&#039;t realize that Google Maps relied so heavily upon Yellow Pages.com.  Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>Great work.  I didn&#8217;t realize that Google Maps relied so heavily upon Yellow Pages.com.  Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right.  And all those other listings have been populated into G Maps, too. 

Note that the sole citation for each is yellowpages.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  And all those other listings have been populated into G Maps, too. </p>
<p>Note that the sole citation for each is yellowpages.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/03/02/google-maps-suffers-huge-infusion-of-remote-call-forwarding-mapspam/comment-page-1/#comment-335918</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Yellowpages.com listing also showed another &quot;DBA&quot; that I had not searched on and it also showed an interesting mix of 800 &amp; Local numbers:

Cornelius Florist Concierge
Cornelius, NC 28031 
(704) 765-4234

Cornelius Florist Directory
Cornelius, NC 28031 
(888) 533-0980

Cornelius Florist Telesales Directory
Cornelius, NC 28031 
(888) 860-6434

Cornelius Flower Shops
Cornelius, NC 28031 
(704) 314-4425

Cornelius Flower Shops Directory
Cornelius, NC 28031 
(888) 877-3203

Cornelius Flowers by Grower
Cornelius, NC 28031 
(888) 291-6282

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yellowpages.com listing also showed another &#8220;DBA&#8221; that I had not searched on and it also showed an interesting mix of 800 &amp; Local numbers:</p>
<p>Cornelius Florist Concierge<br />
Cornelius, NC 28031<br />
(704) 765-4234</p>
<p>Cornelius Florist Directory<br />
Cornelius, NC 28031<br />
(888) 533-0980</p>
<p>Cornelius Florist Telesales Directory<br />
Cornelius, NC 28031<br />
(888) 860-6434</p>
<p>Cornelius Flower Shops<br />
Cornelius, NC 28031<br />
(704) 314-4425</p>
<p>Cornelius Flower Shops Directory<br />
Cornelius, NC 28031<br />
(888) 877-3203</p>
<p>Cornelius Flowers by Grower<br />
Cornelius, NC 28031<br />
(888) 291-6282</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike -

Thanks for the coverage on this story. To further illustrate how the spammer is using IYPs to enter G Maps, look at a query for the phone number for the first Florist Directory listing, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;q=%22%28888%29+533-0980%22&amp;btnG=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Cornelius Florist Directory&#039;&lt;/a&gt;. The sole result is yellowpages.com.

Perhaps G Maps puts an emphasis on &#039;freshness&#039;, so these new bogus listings get pushed out live quickly. (AFAICT the spammer listings have yet to appear in either Yahoo Local/Maps or Live&#039;s Local listings.) But this particular case of spam would be difficult to detect via a filter since every listing has a unique local or toll-free phone number. 

In the locksmith thread, one of the commenters suggested the YPs and IYPs be contacted about this issue.  Believe me, it&#039;s been tried in the floral industry - by both state and national associations - for more than a decade (in the case of print directories).  

I&#039;m only aware of a few cases where it&#039;s been successful, and it&#039;s usually because a state law has teeth and financially penalizes the YPs for publishing the deceptive listings. Most states do not have such penalties and the YP publishers have far better lobbyists than the local florists. 

Cathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike -</p>
<p>Thanks for the coverage on this story. To further illustrate how the spammer is using IYPs to enter G Maps, look at a query for the phone number for the first Florist Directory listing, <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;q=%22%28888%29+533-0980%22&amp;btnG=Search">&#8216;Cornelius Florist Directory&#8217;</a>. The sole result is yellowpages.com.</p>
<p>Perhaps G Maps puts an emphasis on &#8216;freshness&#8217;, so these new bogus listings get pushed out live quickly. (AFAICT the spammer listings have yet to appear in either Yahoo Local/Maps or Live&#8217;s Local listings.) But this particular case of spam would be difficult to detect via a filter since every listing has a unique local or toll-free phone number. </p>
<p>In the locksmith thread, one of the commenters suggested the YPs and IYPs be contacted about this issue.  Believe me, it&#8217;s been tried in the floral industry &#8211; by both state and national associations &#8211; for more than a decade (in the case of print directories).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only aware of a few cases where it&#8217;s been successful, and it&#8217;s usually because a state law has teeth and financially penalizes the YPs for publishing the deceptive listings. Most states do not have such penalties and the YP publishers have far better lobbyists than the local florists. </p>
<p>Cathy</p>
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