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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-278699</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ohio Follower

I am not aware of blogs covering Yahoo Local. Perhaps you should start one?

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ohio Follower</p>
<p>I am not aware of blogs covering Yahoo Local. Perhaps you should start one?</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio Follower</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-278165</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohio Follower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still a noob in the sem space please keep updating with articles like this...especially about anything Yahoo it&#039;s funny I really can&#039;y find a lot of blogs adn sites covering Yahoo news anymore...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still a noob in the sem space please keep updating with articles like this&#8230;especially about anything Yahoo it&#8217;s funny I really can&#8217;y find a lot of blogs adn sites covering Yahoo news anymore&#8230;any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan van Hilten</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-274196</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan van Hilten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[okay - it seems that when entering the info the actual state was used. HOWEVER when we tried to do the manual change we still go the same error message.  SO it would appear that even if you try to do an edit to a bulk upload via a manual process - it doesn&#039;t allow you to do that. You need to delete all your work and start again. 

However; we are still having the same error message happening with our Canadian listings on the french side and we have used the abbreviated 2 character lisitng for the province.  I&#039;ll be working on that one today.

So in short... we were responsible IN PART for the issue. However; not for the response when we tried to correct the listings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay &#8211; it seems that when entering the info the actual state was used. HOWEVER when we tried to do the manual change we still go the same error message.  SO it would appear that even if you try to do an edit to a bulk upload via a manual process &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t allow you to do that. You need to delete all your work and start again. </p>
<p>However; we are still having the same error message happening with our Canadian listings on the french side and we have used the abbreviated 2 character lisitng for the province.  I&#8217;ll be working on that one today.</p>
<p>So in short&#8230; we were responsible IN PART for the issue. However; not for the response when we tried to correct the listings.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Barone</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-273912</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Barone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Like John Kerry in 2004, Google seems to have lost Ohio.&quot;


That is the greatest opening sentence I&#039;ve read in some time. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like John Kerry in 2004, Google seems to have lost Ohio.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is the greatest opening sentence I&#8217;ve read in some time. <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-273893</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Joan

Thanks for the clarification. It is indeed buggy, although the bugs seem to change day to day.

@CJ it seems that Google Maps is slow but I think it appears that way because they fix &#039;public&#039; bugs more quickly than they fix LBC bugs as they perceive that the LBC does not affect end user experience. I would contend that the LBC users&#039; experience is the end users experience and it should be prioritized.

@Jen
I would be glad to not open bug threads on my blog IF and WHEN they get responded to quickly at your place. I didn&#039;t cover the system error for over a month despite its new worthiness, thinking that you would get it fixed. 

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joan</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. It is indeed buggy, although the bugs seem to change day to day.</p>
<p>@CJ it seems that Google Maps is slow but I think it appears that way because they fix &#8216;public&#8217; bugs more quickly than they fix LBC bugs as they perceive that the LBC does not affect end user experience. I would contend that the LBC users&#8217; experience is the end users experience and it should be prioritized.</p>
<p>@Jen<br />
I would be glad to not open bug threads on my blog IF and WHEN they get responded to quickly at your place. I didn&#8217;t cover the system error for over a month despite its new worthiness, thinking that you would get it fixed. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Joan van Hilten</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-273889</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan van Hilten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay dokey here folks let me try to dispell some of the confusion here but running ya&#039;ll through it step by step.  

*takes a deep breath*

We did a bulk up load for this particular client so there was no other option BUT to use a two &quot;digit&quot; alpha code.  Ditto for the Canadian bulk upload we did. 
When we went back to check on the American listings they were all disapproved.  ALL OF THEM - with an error message that the custom attribute biz discription was too long. 
When we fixed the the length of characters ( down from the allowed 200 characters to 170 characters) we got another error message stating there was no such state/province for that country. 
I opened a blog message on Google. 

*takes another deep breath* 

THEN when trying to do an upload for a Canadian client I got the error message right away that there was no such state/province for the country.  
This is not my first bulk upload, I&#039;m well aware of the fact that there needs to be a two digit alpha code when doing a bulk upload.  
HOWEVER:  when you go into Maps LBC and try to do an edit manuall or do a listing manually there is in fact a drop down list of the states/provinces in FULL alpha spelling. So to say that I&#039;m doing it wrong by NOT choosing a two digit alpha code is a bit misleading at best. I have no option but to choose a full character spelling of either the state or province that I&#039;m editing OR entering for the first time as a single listing.

Hope this clarifies it for all.

Many thanks.
j]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay dokey here folks let me try to dispell some of the confusion here but running ya&#8217;ll through it step by step.  </p>
<p>*takes a deep breath*</p>
<p>We did a bulk up load for this particular client so there was no other option BUT to use a two &#8220;digit&#8221; alpha code.  Ditto for the Canadian bulk upload we did.<br />
When we went back to check on the American listings they were all disapproved.  ALL OF THEM &#8211; with an error message that the custom attribute biz discription was too long.<br />
When we fixed the the length of characters ( down from the allowed 200 characters to 170 characters) we got another error message stating there was no such state/province for that country.<br />
I opened a blog message on Google. </p>
<p>*takes another deep breath* </p>
<p>THEN when trying to do an upload for a Canadian client I got the error message right away that there was no such state/province for the country.<br />
This is not my first bulk upload, I&#8217;m well aware of the fact that there needs to be a two digit alpha code when doing a bulk upload.<br />
HOWEVER:  when you go into Maps LBC and try to do an edit manuall or do a listing manually there is in fact a drop down list of the states/provinces in FULL alpha spelling. So to say that I&#8217;m doing it wrong by NOT choosing a two digit alpha code is a bit misleading at best. I have no option but to choose a full character spelling of either the state or province that I&#8217;m editing OR entering for the first time as a single listing.</p>
<p>Hope this clarifies it for all.</p>
<p>Many thanks.<br />
j</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-273407</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google&#039;s bug fixes and solutions on Local Search seem to be alot slower than they are across their other properties. You&#039;d think Local would be a bigger issue for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google&#8217;s bug fixes and solutions on Local Search seem to be alot slower than they are across their other properties. You&#8217;d think Local would be a bigger issue for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/10/17/google-looses-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-272953</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jen

Joan noted to me that the full name Ohio was in the drop down and not of her doing.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen</p>
<p>Joan noted to me that the full name Ohio was in the drop down and not of her doing.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Maps Guide Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maps Guide Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike,

That particular field currently only accepts country/region/province codes, not the full name. We&#039;ll look into a way to make this clearer, but I wanted to swing by and assure you that this is not a bug in the Local Business Center.  

I noticed Joan also reported this in the help group. In the future I&#039;d recommend anyone experiencing these types of issues to go through that channel; it makes it a little simpler for us to investigate when we can see the context/thread behind it.

Cheers,
Jen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>That particular field currently only accepts country/region/province codes, not the full name. We&#8217;ll look into a way to make this clearer, but I wanted to swing by and assure you that this is not a bug in the Local Business Center.  </p>
<p>I noticed Joan also reported this in the help group. In the future I&#8217;d recommend anyone experiencing these types of issues to go through that channel; it makes it a little simpler for us to investigate when we can see the context/thread behind it.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jen</p>
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		<title>By: Stever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath on the LBC getting fixed any time soon. The wingnuts at GOOG are too busy right now screwing things up over on the iGoogle platform http://stever.ca/internet/new-igoogle-navigation-sucks/

I do kid, of course, not likely the same team working on those separate parts of Google, but seems like its open season on criticizing the GOOG lately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath on the LBC getting fixed any time soon. The wingnuts at GOOG are too busy right now screwing things up over on the iGoogle platform <a href="http://stever.ca/internet/new-igoogle-navigation-sucks/">http://stever.ca/internet/new-igoogle-navigation-sucks/</a></p>
<p>I do kid, of course, not likely the same team working on those separate parts of Google, but seems like its open season on criticizing the GOOG lately.</p>
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