Comments on: Google Maps and the wrong URL http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/ Developing Knowledge about Local Search Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:07:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Local Search and Website Copyrights — NicholasReese.com The Musings of Nicholas Reese http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-409213 Local Search and Website Copyrights — NicholasReese.com The Musings of Nicholas Reese Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:22:44 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-409213 [...] words as truth this points to Google Algorithm. Mike Bluementhal has outlined several times how Google has been attributing the wrong URL to business. These examples point out that Google still has a large amount of tweaking to do to the Local [...] [...] words as truth this points to Google Algorithm. Mike Bluementhal has outlined several times how Google has been attributing the wrong URL to business. These examples point out that Google still has a large amount of tweaking to do to the Local [...]

]]> By: What is Merchant Circle up to now? » Understanding Google Maps & Yahoo Local Search http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-377795 What is Merchant Circle up to now? » Understanding Google Maps & Yahoo Local Search Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:00:06 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-377795 [...] searches on these trade name domain with locale show the MC result in the One Box (due to Google assigning it to unclaimed records) and in positions one and two on the main results [...] [...] searches on these trade name domain with locale show the MC result in the One Box (due to Google assigning it to unclaimed records) and in positions one and two on the main results [...]

]]> By: Michiel Van Kets http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-329019 Michiel Van Kets Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:32:17 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-329019 good tips indeed, although google did do his research good on mine, I ran some test and found some weird stuff to ... good tips indeed, although google did do his research good on mine, I ran some test and found some weird stuff to …

]]> By: Mike http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-328964 Mike Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:47:36 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-328964 @Scottsdale Google doesn't allow you to claim someone else's listing without verifying via post card to the original address or via a phone call to the original phone number....you can however edit or add to a listing that has not yet been claimed. usually these cases of wrong URL are a result of Google adding the URL to an unclaimed listing. Mike @Scottsdale
Google doesn’t allow you to claim someone else’s listing without verifying via post card to the original address or via a phone call to the original phone number….you can however edit or add to a listing that has not yet been claimed. usually these cases of wrong URL are a result of Google adding the URL to an unclaimed listing.

Mike

]]> By: Scottsdale SEO http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-328918 Scottsdale SEO Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:36:10 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-328918 I am just amazed that Google allows for you to claim someone elses listing in the first place. We have not had it happen to any of our clients thanks goodness for that! Good advice on what to do if you help get someone listed who doesn't have a domain. I am just amazed that Google allows for you to claim someone elses listing in the first place. We have not had it happen to any of our clients thanks goodness for that! Good advice on what to do if you help get someone listed who doesn’t have a domain.

]]> By: Mike Blumenthal http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-260438 Mike Blumenthal Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:41:50 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-260438 If only I had a little Mark Twain in me...my son and I are set to read it together this fall. Mike If only I had a little Mark Twain in me…my son and I are set to read it together this fall.

Mike

]]> By: Gib Olander http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-260437 Gib Olander Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:29:26 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-260437 Wow..Bollocks and conflated in the same blog post, you have a little Mark Twain in you, ah the turn of a phrase. I don't know when the last time you read Tom Sawyer, recently I just revisited ii and it's a joy. Wow..Bollocks and conflated in the same blog post, you have a little Mark Twain in you, ah the turn of a phrase. I don’t know when the last time you read Tom Sawyer, recently I just revisited ii and it’s a joy.

]]> By: martijn http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-260035 martijn Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:28:04 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-260035 good to hear a google voice in this issue! good to hear a google voice in this issue!

]]> By: Mike Blumenthal http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-259975 Mike Blumenthal Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:20:32 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-259975 @panzer The short answer to your theory is: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollox" rel="nofollow">Bollocks</a>. The long answer is below. There are a number of scenarios that occur with Google Maps that lead to "bad" data showing up in Maps and the main Google Results. One is the situation that I describe above and it occurs mostly with Business Records that have not been claimed or have not entered their URL in the Local Business Center. There is another situation of <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/06/10/increasing-reports-of-merged-records-in-google-maps/" rel="nofollow">data merging</a> that seems to occur when two records get conflated for some reason. The underlying LBC record is OK but perhaps because of confusing signals, Google mixes two businesses up. The third known scenario is <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/06/google-plus-box-where-does-the-wrong-data-come-from/" rel="nofollow">erroneous data in the Plus Box</a>. The Plus Box and the Local Business Center are totally distinct in Google's world and even if the LBC record is totally clean, Google may have scraped old information from across the web and assigned it to the organic search result. The fourth situation is when the LBC record and the OneBox records don't match. This is usually due to the unusually long delay that occurs between when an LBC record is updated and when the main Google index picks up that new information. It could be upwards of 3 months on occasion. I haven't been able to verify more explainable instances from the examples that I have looked at. Google Maps is however a huge universe with lots of "features" so I am sure that there are cases that I have missed. Mike @panzer

The short answer to your theory is: Bollocks. The long answer is below.

There are a number of scenarios that occur with Google Maps that lead to “bad” data showing up in Maps and the main Google Results.

One is the situation that I describe above and it occurs mostly with Business Records that have not been claimed or have not entered their URL in the Local Business Center.

There is another situation of data merging that seems to occur when two records get conflated for some reason. The underlying LBC record is OK but perhaps because of confusing signals, Google mixes two businesses up.

The third known scenario is erroneous data in the Plus Box. The Plus Box and the Local Business Center are totally distinct in Google’s world and even if the LBC record is totally clean, Google may have scraped old information from across the web and assigned it to the organic search result.

The fourth situation is when the LBC record and the OneBox records don’t match. This is usually due to the unusually long delay that occurs between when an LBC record is updated and when the main Google index picks up that new information. It could be upwards of 3 months on occasion.

I haven’t been able to verify more explainable instances from the examples that I have looked at. Google Maps is however a huge universe with lots of “features” so I am sure that there are cases that I have missed.

Mike

]]> By: panzermike http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/07/31/google-maps-and-the-wrong-url/comment-page-1/#comment-259970 panzermike Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:39:50 +0000 http://blumenthals.com/blog/?p=751#comment-259970 Mike: When I had other data migrating into my phone number box, and URL box I had done all of the above things you insinuate business owners are failing to do. What I propose is occurring, is that Google looks at other sites like Superpages, or a blog that has multiple phone numbers and addresses to different businesses that may be similar. Perhaps a blog list of lawyers in LA. Google misinterprets the third party data, and replaces the author, or business owner's data with that third party data, because Maps assumes is more reliable. And Maps considers Superpages and Martindale Hubble reliable, based upon the many listings on those servers and data providers popping up for Los Angeles Injury Attorneys. You can see that Maps likes data from Martindale sites. In other words, my theory is at least in part, that Maps is changing the data entered by the business owner and switching out data. Of course I realize I really don't know anything and am not a patrician in this Maps world, the small lawyer sector wished to express its theory and see if you think it holds water. Mike:

When I had other data migrating into my phone number box, and URL box I had done all of the above things you insinuate business owners are failing to do.

What I propose is occurring, is that Google looks at other sites like Superpages, or a blog that has multiple phone numbers and addresses to different businesses that may be similar. Perhaps a blog list of lawyers in LA.

Google misinterprets the third party data, and replaces the author, or business owner’s data with that third party data, because Maps assumes is more reliable. And Maps considers Superpages and Martindale Hubble reliable, based upon the many listings on those servers and data providers popping up for Los Angeles Injury Attorneys.

You can see that Maps likes data from Martindale sites.

In other words, my theory is at least in part, that Maps is changing the data entered by the business owner and switching out data. Of course I realize I really don’t know anything and am not a patrician in this Maps world, the small lawyer sector wished to express its theory and see if you think it holds water.

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