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	<title>Comments on: Google Maps: What can be learned from the Mapspammers?</title>
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		<title>By: Would you get marriage counseling from this woman? &#187; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/05/19/google-maps-what-can-be-learned-from-the-mapspammers/comment-page-1/#comment-310044</link>
		<dc:creator>Would you get marriage counseling from this woman? &#187; Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] position for any business. I am always fascinated by the lengths and lack of discretion (think Boob Job San Diego) in attempting to game the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] position for any business. I am always fascinated by the lengths and lack of discretion (think Boob Job San Diego) in attempting to game the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web Hosting Blog</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/05/19/google-maps-what-can-be-learned-from-the-mapspammers/comment-page-1/#comment-248266</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Hosting Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Its funny to me that no matter what new popular service comes out, there will always be someone who will try to manipulate results with SPAM. SPAM is definitely here to stay on the internet...just in millions of different forms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Its funny to me that no matter what new popular service comes out, there will always be someone who will try to manipulate results with SPAM. SPAM is definitely here to stay on the internet&#8230;just in millions of different forms.</p>
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		<title>By: Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Renaming your business for Local &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/05/19/google-maps-what-can-be-learned-from-the-mapspammers/comment-page-1/#comment-246618</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Renaming your business for Local &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marketers&#8221; have used keyword phrases like &#8220;Brain Injury Lawyer&#8221; or &#8220;Boob Job&#8221; to replace their business names in an effort to achieve ranking.Â Mary Bowling recently had [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marketers&#8221; have used keyword phrases like &#8220;Brain Injury Lawyer&#8221; or &#8220;Boob Job&#8221; to replace their business names in an effort to achieve ranking.Â Mary Bowling recently had [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Mihm</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/05/19/google-maps-what-can-be-learned-from-the-mapspammers/comment-page-1/#comment-239122</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mihm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that a lot of authoritative oneboxes seem completely arbitrary.  One of my clients currently has a onebox for a LBC listing we uploaded over two years ago.  IMHO they should not even be one of the first 3-4 results in the 10-pack, let alone an authoritative one, but the office is close to the centroid.  Almost the reverse of what happened with you guys.  There does not seem to be any discernible rhyme or reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that a lot of authoritative oneboxes seem completely arbitrary.  One of my clients currently has a onebox for a LBC listing we uploaded over two years ago.  IMHO they should not even be one of the first 3-4 results in the 10-pack, let alone an authoritative one, but the office is close to the centroid.  Almost the reverse of what happened with you guys.  There does not seem to be any discernible rhyme or reason.</p>
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		<title>By: earlpearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlpearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:  I&#039;m neither that tricky or smart...but my achin old bones suggest I&#039;ve got a lot of experience....and I do.  

I&#039;ve never tried the phone number stuff.  On a ppc ad....tho..per local hound&#039;s suggestion....that sounds sharp.  Never thought of that--never tried it.  

While speaking of authoritative one maps, I&#039;ve got a business w/one and we did nothing to get it.  Its not in the city where we are addressed.  I can&#039;t remember doing anything link wise or seo wise that would have caused it.  Our address is nearby and the extension of geography within maps might have caused it.  Here is the biggest surprise about it.  Google has a competitor in there data base that is addressed in that town.  So how did we get it.  Big mystery.

On the other hand, I can verify after years of tracking data that the value of this phrase is pretty marginal at best.  Having an authoritative one map in that case won&#039;t really matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:  I&#8217;m neither that tricky or smart&#8230;but my achin old bones suggest I&#8217;ve got a lot of experience&#8230;.and I do.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never tried the phone number stuff.  On a ppc ad&#8230;.tho..per local hound&#8217;s suggestion&#8230;.that sounds sharp.  Never thought of that&#8211;never tried it.  </p>
<p>While speaking of authoritative one maps, I&#8217;ve got a business w/one and we did nothing to get it.  Its not in the city where we are addressed.  I can&#8217;t remember doing anything link wise or seo wise that would have caused it.  Our address is nearby and the extension of geography within maps might have caused it.  Here is the biggest surprise about it.  Google has a competitor in there data base that is addressed in that town.  So how did we get it.  Big mystery.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I can verify after years of tracking data that the value of this phrase is pretty marginal at best.  Having an authoritative one map in that case won&#8217;t really matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan van Hilten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan van Hilten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a highly competative market out there. Dog eat dog.  The  more local realestate they own...  

I wonder if this is a bulk upload?  The same edits aren&#039;t in place up front.  Or that this was done over a period of time so as not to create undue suspicion from the Google Powers That Be.  

With the same address &amp; same phone number it defeats the purpose of the unique.  I know I&#039;ve tried with a client  ( who shalll remain nameless) to use one local number that would route all calls for that state to a call centre then dispatch a technician. 
All but one listing per phone number were deleted out of Google.  

I&#039;m very surprised that this hasn&#039;t happened to them.  

Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a highly competative market out there. Dog eat dog.  The  more local realestate they own&#8230;  </p>
<p>I wonder if this is a bulk upload?  The same edits aren&#8217;t in place up front.  Or that this was done over a period of time so as not to create undue suspicion from the Google Powers That Be.  </p>
<p>With the same address &amp; same phone number it defeats the purpose of the unique.  I know I&#8217;ve tried with a client  ( who shalll remain nameless) to use one local number that would route all calls for that state to a call centre then dispatch a technician.<br />
All but one listing per phone number were deleted out of Google.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very surprised that this hasn&#8217;t happened to them.  </p>
<p>Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Brick Marketing Local</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brick Marketing Local</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems people will spam anywhere and everywhere -- even maps.  Those botox folks are ruthless we see!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems people will spam anywhere and everywhere &#8212; even maps.  Those botox folks are ruthless we see!</p>
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		<title>By: David Mihm</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mihm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlpearl, I wasn&#039;t saying you spammed at all. I&#039;m sorry if it came across that way!  I just meant that I bet at one time or another you had tried putting your phone number in your business title because it seems like you have a lot of hands-on experience with the Local interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlpearl, I wasn&#8217;t saying you spammed at all. I&#8217;m sorry if it came across that way!  I just meant that I bet at one time or another you had tried putting your phone number in your business title because it seems like you have a lot of hands-on experience with the Local interface.</p>
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		<title>By: earlpearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlpearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, David, et al.

Low blow, David.  I don&#039;t think we spam at all....and certainly not like these guys....and beyond that....I&#039;m not smart enuff to come up w/ these things.   

I simply bow at the imagination and creativity of these spam meisters.   

Keep em coming, Mike.....its pretty astounding stuff.

:D

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, David, et al.</p>
<p>Low blow, David.  I don&#8217;t think we spam at all&#8230;.and certainly not like these guys&#8230;.and beyond that&#8230;.I&#8217;m not smart enuff to come up w/ these things.   </p>
<p>I simply bow at the imagination and creativity of these spam meisters.   </p>
<p>Keep em coming, Mike&#8230;..its pretty astounding stuff.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joan

Yes, I guess like their clients, they are &quot;expanding&quot; their opportunities. :)

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joan</p>
<p>Yes, I guess like their clients, they are &#8220;expanding&#8221; their opportunities. <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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