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		<title>By: Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Microsoft Azure catches Google&#8217;s PlusBox Blues &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/04/google-and-the-plusbox-blues/comment-page-1/#comment-286432</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Microsoft Azure catches Google&#8217;s PlusBox Blues &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to fix the plus box (yea right) • Google Plus Box - Where does the (wrong) data come from? • Google and the PlusBox Blues   &#171; Local Links of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to fix the plus box (yea right) • Google Plus Box &#8211; Where does the (wrong) data come from? • Google and the PlusBox Blues   &laquo; Local Links of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Google Plus Box - for real &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/04/google-and-the-plusbox-blues/comment-page-1/#comment-219637</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Google Plus Box - for real &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/04/google-and-the-plusbox-blues/#comment-219637</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] Here are my previous posts about the Plus Box issues: â€¢How to change your Business Address in the Internet Age â€¢5 Simple Steps to fix the plus box (yea right) â€¢Google Plus Box - Where does the (wrong) data come from? â€¢Google and the PlusBox Blues [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here are my previous posts about the Plus Box issues: â€¢How to change your Business Address in the Internet Age â€¢5 Simple Steps to fix the plus box (yea right) â€¢Google Plus Box &#8211; Where does the (wrong) data come from? â€¢Google and the PlusBox Blues [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; How to change your Business Address in the Internet Age &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/04/google-and-the-plusbox-blues/comment-page-1/#comment-216148</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; How to change your Business Address in the Internet Age &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] weeks written about the problem of erroneous address information in the Google PlusBox (here and here) and recently Bill Slawski covered the issue with one of his Google patent [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weeks written about the problem of erroneous address information in the Google PlusBox (here and here) and recently Bill Slawski covered the issue with one of his Google patent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Google Plus Box - Where does the (wrong) data come from? &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/04/google-and-the-plusbox-blues/comment-page-1/#comment-210266</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Google Plus Box - Where does the (wrong) data come from? &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recently theorized that the primary source for this erroneous information was the business website itself. That seems [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recently theorized that the primary source for this erroneous information was the business website itself. That seems [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/03/04/google-and-the-plusbox-blues/comment-page-1/#comment-209927</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Robert

Sorry to make so public an analysis but I thought your problem was so typical and Google&#039;s response so inadequate. Given that they invented the site: command, they should have alerted you to the problem. Would you mind describing how you previously attempted to contact Google and what measures you had taken to try to solve the problem?

Please keep me posted if this resolves your issue (in 6 to 8 weeks :)).

Are you going to get those other sites to change your address as well? If you don&#039;t mind waiting at this point, it would help resolve any ambiguity about what Google is doing.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert</p>
<p>Sorry to make so public an analysis but I thought your problem was so typical and Google&#8217;s response so inadequate. Given that they invented the site: command, they should have alerted you to the problem. Would you mind describing how you previously attempted to contact Google and what measures you had taken to try to solve the problem?</p>
<p>Please keep me posted if this resolves your issue (in 6 to 8 weeks <img src='http://blumenthals.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>Are you going to get those other sites to change your address as well? If you don&#8217;t mind waiting at this point, it would help resolve any ambiguity about what Google is doing.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Thank you for your detailed investigation into the problem.   I thought that all references to the old address were removed from the business web site, alas it looks like we missed two pages written awhile ago.   We changed the web pages to the new address and have put the URLs in our sitemap file for the google indexer.   We also resubmitted the sitmap to Google.  Hopefully this will fix the problem.  Thanks again.

-Robert]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Thank you for your detailed investigation into the problem.   I thought that all references to the old address were removed from the business web site, alas it looks like we missed two pages written awhile ago.   We changed the web pages to the new address and have put the URLs in our sitemap file for the google indexer.   We also resubmitted the sitmap to Google.  Hopefully this will fix the problem.  Thanks again.</p>
<p>-Robert</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, cool! I really hope you 2 will do an update on this if/when you are able to see any change.

Fascinating stuff.
Miriam]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, cool! I really hope you 2 will do an update on this if/when you are able to see any change.</p>
<p>Fascinating stuff.<br />
Miriam</p>
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		<title>By: earlpearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlpearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miriam:

Every so often I contact people at groups whose issues arouse my curiosity.  Its nice to know that Mike is doing this.

I don&#039;t review it as much as I did a year ago....but there is this constant repetitiveness of issues that keeps coming up from new writers.

I&#039;m not current on the issue of inputting coupons into the local business center so I don&#039;t know if Google effected a fix or if one still has to first input a coupon without an expiration date for it go live and be seen.  If one wants to then attach an expiration date, then one has to amend the initial coupon.

That fix was discovered and publicised by an independent writer into google groups.  He evidently experimented and came up with a solution.

I think we are experimenting with the &quot;mixed signals and wrong address/phone information&quot; in plusboxes and maps that show up in organic searches to see if we can find &quot;solutions&quot;

I bet google already has the answers.  Its actually a shame, IMHO.  Its not a matter of ranking first or second in results....it is a matter of getting accurate information on the web to web site owners and the people who visit these sites.

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miriam:</p>
<p>Every so often I contact people at groups whose issues arouse my curiosity.  Its nice to know that Mike is doing this.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t review it as much as I did a year ago&#8230;.but there is this constant repetitiveness of issues that keeps coming up from new writers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not current on the issue of inputting coupons into the local business center so I don&#8217;t know if Google effected a fix or if one still has to first input a coupon without an expiration date for it go live and be seen.  If one wants to then attach an expiration date, then one has to amend the initial coupon.</p>
<p>That fix was discovered and publicised by an independent writer into google groups.  He evidently experimented and came up with a solution.</p>
<p>I think we are experimenting with the &#8220;mixed signals and wrong address/phone information&#8221; in plusboxes and maps that show up in organic searches to see if we can find &#8220;solutions&#8221;</p>
<p>I bet google already has the answers.  Its actually a shame, IMHO.  Its not a matter of ranking first or second in results&#8230;.it is a matter of getting accurate information on the web to web site owners and the people who visit these sites.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: earlpearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlpearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miriam:  

I agree.  I think Mike is doing a great service with regard to commenting on G Maps and Y local.  

and yeah....;) I do feel better, Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miriam:  </p>
<p>I agree.  I think Mike is doing a great service with regard to commenting on G Maps and Y local.  </p>
<p>and yeah&#8230;.;) I do feel better, Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
â€œmy experience indicates that those signals only reinforce the information from the Top Hat website populating Googleâ€™s PlusBox. â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What I meant was that there are other websites, not TopHat&#039;s, that Google has found that still have the old address. It is conceivable that these sites are either the primary provider for Google&#039;s PlusBox data or supporting signals to reinforce the data in the PlusBox. 

It is my theory that these are supporting signals to the PlusBox data that comes primarily from the TopHat website. 

For my lack of clarity.

As for getting in touch, I did post back at the Google group in response to TopHat and in the other case, Dave has been in contact with them. They are removing their extra pages and Dave will let me know the results.

Mike

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
â€œmy experience indicates that those signals only reinforce the information from the Top Hat website populating Googleâ€™s PlusBox. â€</p></blockquote>
<p>What I meant was that there are other websites, not TopHat&#8217;s, that Google has found that still have the old address. It is conceivable that these sites are either the primary provider for Google&#8217;s PlusBox data or supporting signals to reinforce the data in the PlusBox. </p>
<p>It is my theory that these are supporting signals to the PlusBox data that comes primarily from the TopHat website. </p>
<p>For my lack of clarity.</p>
<p>As for getting in touch, I did post back at the Google group in response to TopHat and in the other case, Dave has been in contact with them. They are removing their extra pages and Dave will let me know the results.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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