Comments on: Additional report of abuse at Google Maps

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:22:34 +0000

The locksmith industry has been fraught with this kind of phony address listing abuse. It’s a shame. People are getting taken by these crooks.

By: SearchCap: The Day In Search, August 2, 2007

SearchCap: The Day In Search, August 2, 2007 — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:46:10 +0000

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By: Cathy

Cathy — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:56:23 +0000

On that page, the pin type shows one real local and three fakes. Artistry in Flowers is a B&M shop that unfortunately happens to have three separate Olympia listings, including the one seen without the address.

Lacey Florist and Olympia Florist of Same-Day Florals forward to an ‘order gatherer’ in Issaquah, about 70 miles away. Those orders will be rerouted back to real local Olympia flower shops (through a florist wire service) less commissions & fees which typically run 30% - 40%. Easy money for just pretending to be local. (There’s actually a Washington State law law prohibiting this practice.)

I’d be interested to know how and even why Maps approximates pin placements for these phony locals.

By: earlpearl

earlpearl — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:46:42 +0000

Its great that you keep revealing this info, Mike. In both cases the bulk uploads were sort of brand names. In the DC region there is a fairly significant amount of traditional advertising for “we buy houses” types of businesses ranging from tv to print….and you’ll see it posted on cars throughout the region. I searched for a couple of jurisdictions and darned if…regardless of the town/city name the address was always 500 Main Street and the phone number was always the same.

This stuff rips at the integrity of local data. I really think the engines should put more customer service into cleaning the data, reponding to complaints and now establishing filters to weed out the spam.–that means manpower!

Dave

By: Mike Blumenthal

Mike Blumenthal — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:28:13 +0000

Cathy

Great phrasing! And a palindrome no less….I am impressed.

I am also impressed with your description of practices in floral industry. Clearly, it is a much more sophisticated approach and simultaneously more deceptive and difficult to find…

I noticed in your Google Maps example a different “Pin Type” when the address was not known….and I saw 3 or 4 of those listings. Are they all misrepresentations?

Mike

By: Cathy

Cathy — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:06:14 +0000

GeoBombing? Mapspam? (nice palindrome, too)

Geographic misrepresentation has been widespread in the floral industry, but the worst abusers have typically bought their way in via local phone numbers with remote call forwarding or through paid placement with print or online publishers. Once picked up by data providers like Acxiom or InfoUSA, the phony locals get repeated as ‘fact’.

See this “fake Olympia, WA florist” for example - and how the listing appears in Google Maps.

Google Local/Maps currently has thousands of these types of listings with no easy way for anyone to report them.

No matter what it’s called, the intent is to deceive consumers into thinking they’re purchasing direct from local businesses. Stories about shoppers ripped off by phony locals routinely make the news.

It seems that any business category with an affiliate marketing model is ripe for this kind of abuse - bulk upload or one listing at a time.

Mike - thanks for your great coverage on this issue.