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		<title>By: Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Google Maps Expanded Local OneBox Makes Brief Reappearance &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-190836</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding Google Maps &#38; Yahoo Local Search &#187; Google Maps Expanded Local OneBox Makes Brief Reappearance &#124; Developing Knowledge about Local Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This question of the difference, how it happened and why it was problematic was explored here and here. I did not have time to test this prior to the result no longer appearing. But one [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ya se que es Google Local, pero cÃ³mo me posiciono primero ? &#171; i-Marketingconsulting&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-164037</link>
		<dc:creator>Ya se que es Google Local, pero cÃ³mo me posiciono primero ? &#171; i-Marketingconsulting&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Several of us have been involved in a lot of discussion about why the same search produces different results between Google Maps and Google.com. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Several of us have been involved in a lot of discussion about why the same search produces different results between Google Maps and Google.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Long Beach Mobile Notary</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-161243</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Beach Mobile Notary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never realized you would get different results in Google Local and Google Maps. I definitely have to do more research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never realized you would get different results in Google Local and Google Maps. I definitely have to do more research.</p>
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		<title>By: Pay attention to Google Local</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-65654</link>
		<dc:creator>Pay attention to Google Local</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Clearly, itâ€™s now going to be very important to pay attention to local search. Thereâ€™s been some discussion centred around when local business results are displayed, how to get a business listing there and how to optimise for the top 3 results that are displayed on the first page. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Clearly, itâ€™s now going to be very important to pay attention to local search. Thereâ€™s been some discussion centred around when local business results are displayed, how to get a business listing there and how to optimise for the top 3 results that are displayed on the first page. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Likely Elements of Google&#8217;s Local Search Algorithm &#187; Small Business SEM</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-4912</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Likely Elements of Google&#8217;s Local Search Algorithm &#187; Small Business SEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Several of us have been involved in a lot of discussion about why the same search produces different results between Google Maps and Google.com. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mike Blumenthal</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-4212</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Blumenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave

I think that Matt noted that he had seen an alpha listing. 

I have not seen it but it makes sense if all else fails, I will keep an eye out.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>I think that Matt noted that he had seen an alpha listing. </p>
<p>I have not seen it but it makes sense if all else fails, I will keep an eye out.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Earlpearl</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-4138</link>
		<dc:creator>Earlpearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m seeing some maps/onebox showings that seem predicated on an alpha directory.

listings seem to be made based on alphabetical order.  Anyone else seeing anything like that?

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seeing some maps/onebox showings that seem predicated on an alpha directory.</p>
<p>listings seem to be made based on alphabetical order.  Anyone else seeing anything like that?</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-3813</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike,

It is complex, and I think that it is changing and evolving over time.  My post about differences between Onebox and local results based upon &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seobythesea.com/?p=470&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;location prominence&lt;/a&gt; only touches upon some of the issues involved.

I know that some topics/subjects that people searc for involve showing maps at a greater or smaller scale.

I also know that some locations have a greater density of businesses than others, and that can influence the scale of the map.

The concept of which centerpoint to use has and can change over time - center of a specific zip code, center of a range of zip codes, center of a smaller map in OneBox, center of a larger map in Local, distance from a specific location when address information is very specific, use of latitude/longitude as a center point, use of GPS as a center point. Different queries may determine that different ones are used. Different locations - rural, suburban, urban - may determine which ones are used.

The concept of distance from a centerpoint is also something possibly subject to change. Do you measure it by how the crow flies, or by the mileage if you have good road information, or by driving times if you can estimate those - and if you have different information - more complete or less complete - for some areas, do you mix that information up?

When you have incorrect or inconsistent location information for a business, is there a lessening of the ranking for a site, that ties it to a specific location, which makes it might not rank as highly.

When you have rating informationfor a business, or review information, you probably don&#039;t treat all reviews equally - so a review from Yahoo might be worth more than a review from the Newark Post, or from the World Weekly News. So a site with a single review from an excellent resource that is editorially controlled - like one of the food critics from the New York Times - might carry more weight than a user&#039;s review from Judy&#039;s Book.

I&#039;m just painting with broad strokes at some of the complexities. And I think that Google is experimenting as we go, to see what seems to get the best reactions based upon click-throughs and non click-throughs, time spent on pages, similar searches in the same search session (or online session), and many other things. With millions of results to interpret, and the time to slowly make changes, they are going to cause those of us trying to follow along some headaches along the way.

Cheers.

Bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>It is complex, and I think that it is changing and evolving over time.  My post about differences between Onebox and local results based upon <a href="http://www.seobythesea.com/?p=470">location prominence</a> only touches upon some of the issues involved.</p>
<p>I know that some topics/subjects that people searc for involve showing maps at a greater or smaller scale.</p>
<p>I also know that some locations have a greater density of businesses than others, and that can influence the scale of the map.</p>
<p>The concept of which centerpoint to use has and can change over time &#8211; center of a specific zip code, center of a range of zip codes, center of a smaller map in OneBox, center of a larger map in Local, distance from a specific location when address information is very specific, use of latitude/longitude as a center point, use of GPS as a center point. Different queries may determine that different ones are used. Different locations &#8211; rural, suburban, urban &#8211; may determine which ones are used.</p>
<p>The concept of distance from a centerpoint is also something possibly subject to change. Do you measure it by how the crow flies, or by the mileage if you have good road information, or by driving times if you can estimate those &#8211; and if you have different information &#8211; more complete or less complete &#8211; for some areas, do you mix that information up?</p>
<p>When you have incorrect or inconsistent location information for a business, is there a lessening of the ranking for a site, that ties it to a specific location, which makes it might not rank as highly.</p>
<p>When you have rating informationfor a business, or review information, you probably don&#8217;t treat all reviews equally &#8211; so a review from Yahoo might be worth more than a review from the Newark Post, or from the World Weekly News. So a site with a single review from an excellent resource that is editorially controlled &#8211; like one of the food critics from the New York Times &#8211; might carry more weight than a user&#8217;s review from Judy&#8217;s Book.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just painting with broad strokes at some of the complexities. And I think that Google is experimenting as we go, to see what seems to get the best reactions based upon click-throughs and non click-throughs, time spent on pages, similar searches in the same search session (or online session), and many other things. With millions of results to interpret, and the time to slowly make changes, they are going to cause those of us trying to follow along some headaches along the way.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Location Prominence and Differences in Local OneBox and Google Maps -- SEO by the SEA</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-3784</link>
		<dc:creator>Location Prominence and Differences in Local OneBox and Google Maps -- SEO by the SEA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mike Blumenthal poses an excellent question in his post Google changes Local OneBox Ranking algo! Or do they?. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blumenthals.com/blog/2007/02/07/google-changes-local-onebox-ranking-algo/comment-page-1/#comment-3728</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One difference that might be involved could be the that the boundaries of the maps being shown are different, which is a factor in deciding which locations to show..]]></description>
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